Ashton Goetz at Roda JC

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  1. keller4president

    Jan 5, 2006
    Vacant? I don't like the sound of this advisor. It's our most stacked position - Chandler, Yedlin, Cameron, Spector, Lichaj, Parkhurst, Orozco, Ream and Evans can all play RB.

    I hope Ashton has a better attitude than his advisor and doesn't come waltzing into camp like he's guaranteed to start. Unless, of course, Jurgen already promised him that.
     
  2. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Toscana
    And the task certainly won't be made any easier with way he's kept such a low profile all these years after that messy "Subway Vigilante" episode...
     
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  3. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    I don't see anything wrong with guys coming into the U.S. program thinking they can contribute, rather than thinking "hopefully I can find some minutes along with eight other dudes who may or may not actually play the position." Besides, it's not clear who the presumed first choice RB even is right now, or even what the presumed first-choice formation is.
     
  4. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Considering how potentially messy his process to get his passport might be, I think he'll be grateful for the chance.
     
  5. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  6. Football Master

    May 13, 2010
    Club:
    Hamburger SV
    Götz is pretty limited footballer from what I've seen of him at Hamburg. As a RB, he offers nothing to the team. Average defensively, not good in the air, and an absolute RUBBISH going forward. He's already 21, and if it's not for the coach Zinnbauer (who coached him at U-23) he probably wouldn't have been promoted to the first team at all. That Klinsmann really thinks about calling him up (considering the options available for him at RB) shows his preference for any American who kick a ball in Europe. Götz is playing his first season as a professional player, not even a starter at Hamburg, and haven't had any decent performance when he played. He would NEVER even be thought about for the German national team, so no need to the "we need to cap tie him" crap.

    Btw, he cost Hamburg the win today. Look at what he was doing in the Gladbach goal.
     
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  7. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But he does have a great throw in
     
  8. comoesa

    comoesa Member+

    Aug 13, 2010
    Christen Press's armpit
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's the fear with laying out the red carpet for dual nationals. Some of them just won't be worth the time. Luckily for us so far all most all of them seem to be up the the national team level.

    Despite his faults, Gotz probably currently good enough to help our Olympic team's roster. I hope Klinsmann takes it a slow with him if it's possible for him to suit up for the USMNT.
     
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  9. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Toscana
    Klinsmann in talks with Gotz about playing for USMNT
    http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/artic...alks-hamburgs-ashton-gotz-about-playing-usmnt
     
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  10. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
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    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
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    #60 The Irish Rover, Feb 24, 2015
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    Meh, i don't take it that seriously. I mean, when was the last time an agent said his client wasn't as good as anybody already occupying his client's best position?
     
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  11. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    http://www.sbisoccer.com/2015/02/ashton-track-recruitment.html

    Ashton Gotz still lacks an American passport, but it’s looking all the more likely the Hamburg defender will be asked to train with the U.S. Men’s National Team next month.

    With U.S. Soccer scout Matthias Hamann overseeing the young German-American’s progress, Gotz is expected to be called for USMNT friendlies against Denmark and Switzerland at the end of March. His passport likely won’t be in place by then, but he will get to train with the team.

    According to Gotz’s agent, the U.S. Soccer Federation is working with Gotz to help him obtain an American passport.


    I'm going to be looking for a retirement career soon, so Sunil, keep me on speed dial if you need to add a staffer on this topic.
     
  12. LouisZ

    LouisZ Member+

    Oct 14, 2010
    Southern California-USA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    sounds like JK got himself a RB for the U23 if Yedlin is not ready or is moved to midfield.
     
  13. naopon

    naopon Member+

    Jan 2, 2007
    California
    Club:
    Kawasaki Frontale
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Based on the Hamburger Morgenpost article, Götz seems pretty excited about the opportunity. Couldn't hurt to take a look.
     
  14. soccerusa517

    soccerusa517 Member+

    Jun 23, 2009
    Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How does he compare to the rest of the player pool? I see him no higher than 4th string right back. Depth doesn't hurt though.
     
  15. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    Well, according to the Kicker, his 2014-15 rating is better than Donovan's in 2008-09 - 4:43 vs. 4:75. So, the kid is clearly going to be a legend.
     
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  16. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Probably not higher than 4th, but he is of Olympic age and you never know when someone is going to fall out of form. I think I've heard he can play on the left too
     
  17. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    In other words he's pretty crap on a crap defence.
     
  18. Rahbiefowlah

    Rahbiefowlah Member+

    Oct 22, 2001
    Las Vegas
    Not in the 18 today, dont know why
     
  19. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    They went 1-0 down after 10' against Frankfurt. Rash challenge by ex-Arsenal CB Djourou gave away the pen.

    The ball into the middle came from the RB's position, so Goetz may be back next game.
     
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  20. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
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    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not in the 18 today:
    [​IMG]
     
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  21. naopon

    naopon Member+

    Jan 2, 2007
    California
    Club:
    Kawasaki Frontale
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  22. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    Barcelona, Spain
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    this is looking more and more like a move with the olympics in mind.
     
  23. LouisZ

    LouisZ Member+

    Oct 14, 2010
    Southern California-USA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I thought that was always the plan.
     
  24. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  25. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    More like crap - period. (at the Bundesliga level, naturally ... compared to me in my, ahem, prime, he'd be in another world)


    Notice - this was the A-team, getting a run-out for a new coach during a FIFA break ... which will break some and make others.
     

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