The BigSoccer Academic Conference

Discussion in 'Education and Academia' started by Ismitje, Jan 7, 2014.

  1. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's during the World Cup. Is this Conference going to happen?

    @Ismitje
     
  2. taylor

    taylor Member+

    Jun 9, 2000
    Fav team: FC CARL ZEISS JENA
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #52 taylor, Jun 24, 2014
    Last edited: Jun 24, 2014
    omfg subscribed.

    It looks like our injuries were a 5th deviation (guestimating) during the gh game
    http://bjsportmed.com/content/36/5/354.full.html


    yeah the impact factor sucks, but so what...
    @Guinho

    i can provide a ton of data showing the europa league is a competitive barrier to entry in the cl and that 40% of el teams are relegated within two years of el participation.

    I had an extra slave for a semester :)
     
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  3. BalanceUT

    BalanceUT RSL and THFC!

    Oct 8, 2006
    Appalachia
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Honestly that second item on Europa League is intriguing and probably should be published somewhere. Arguably, it has held back Spurs for the past few seasons and consistent with the reason that Liverpool was able to aspire to winning the league was they had finished below Europa League qualifying the season before. Liverpool played many fewer matches in 2013/14.
     
  4. taylor

    taylor Member+

    Jun 9, 2000
    Fav team: FC CARL ZEISS JENA
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    oh I should mention the 40% excluded the big 16 teams of europ's big five leagues e.g bm, rm, mu, ch etc.
    My problem is sports journals aren't ranked at all and good management journals would say, so what?
    It's been sitting on my drive for three years now.

    Anyway one significant and powerful explanatory variable for relegation is el participation t-1, t-2.
     
  5. Guinho

    Guinho Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes, bless their hearts
    Estonia
    May 27, 2001
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Count me in! (Thanks for the invite, Taylor!) I'm a former academic, but I love me some numbers!
     
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  6. BalanceUT

    BalanceUT RSL and THFC!

    Oct 8, 2006
    Appalachia
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In recent years I've adopted the attitude of 'get it out there' even if in a low level journal, better published than not, even if in a low level journal. I've got things in low level journals that are cited by others because, well, in the end if folks find it interesting it will get spread around. Nowadays, with electronic search, Google, Academia.edu, Vita.com, ResearchGate, etc. it is easier than ever to find things even in obscure journals.

    Also, SageOpen has recently dropped its publication fee to $99. http://sgo.sagepub.com
     
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  7. BalanceUT

    BalanceUT RSL and THFC!

    Oct 8, 2006
    Appalachia
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Analysis of covariance that takes into account some kind of 'total team value' or 'total team income' (I think Forbes has that data?) could make that exclusion of the top 16 big teams sensible. They have so much money that it doesn't matter… what the story becomes is even more clear: is what looks like a reward or transition to the top is actually a barrier to entry because the new income from Europa is insufficient to handle the needed players for the additional competition dates; it effectively protects the top team's elite positions.
     
  8. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I will reiterate it again, my school would be happy to host this if we wanted to have a onsite conference.
     
  9. taylor

    taylor Member+

    Jun 9, 2000
    Fav team: FC CARL ZEISS JENA
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #59 taylor, Jun 24, 2014
    Last edited: Jun 24, 2014
    may I humbly state that I love bs peer review.
    allow me to respond in kind to reviewer
    THIS!!!


    yeah, it absolutely baffeles me why aspiring mid table teams have not caught on to this almost literal valley of death.

    edit: although I haven't done any lit review in 3ish years. but overall it is sort of an interesting strategy for cartels to get labor at distressed valuations...
     
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  10. nicodemus

    nicodemus Member+

    Sep 3, 2001
    Cidade Mágica
    Club:
    PAOK Saloniki
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Being a fan of an Eastern team (PAOK), it's always interesting to me to see how fans of Western teams view the Europa League. We don't have the ability to seriously compete in the Champions League (got knocked out of the last round of qualifiers before the CL group stage last season) and so I would welcome a decrease in the amount of Western teams in the Europa League as it's actually a tournament we enjoy and are able to compete in. It gets frustrating seeing teams that drop out of the CL group stage get dropped into Europa League in the knockout stages and wreak havoc on those teams. In our view, it feels like the whole thing is tilted in favor of the western teams as they're the ones that'll drop in later and naturally be stronger choking out competitive opportunities and extra gate receipts for eastern teams.
     
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  11. BalanceUT

    BalanceUT RSL and THFC!

    Oct 8, 2006
    Appalachia
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree with you on this. The Champions League losers dropping into the Europa league is terrible and is simply a a way to ensure that the rich stay rich by getting make-up gates if they have 'bad luck' in Champions League.
     
  12. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It would be easy to do this now over Zoom. Is there any interest in restarting this idea?
     
  13. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think fifteen people who expressed interest originally are still active on the site. And that gives us some critical mass. Agreed about Zoom. In.
     
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  14. Chesco United

    Chesco United Member+

    DC United
    Jun 24, 2001
    Chester County, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I'm an intellectual with only a bachelor's degree.
     
  15. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think we would keep the requirements rather open.
     
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  16. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I will not speak, but I would consider watching on Zoom. In addition, I do not like when something on Zoom or any other website can only be watched live, unless it requires participation like for work. I like when videos from events are uploaded to YouTube afterward.
     

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