Match #16 - RUS : KOR - PITANA (ARG)

Discussion in 'World Cup 2014: Refereeing' started by Alberto, Jun 17, 2014.

  1. Alberto

    Alberto Member+

    Feb 28, 2000
    Northern, New Jersey
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Match #16 - 17 June 2014 6:00 EDT - Cuiaba

    Officials
    • Referee: Nestor PITANA
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      ARG
    • Assistant Referee 1: Hernan MAIDANA (ARG)
    • Assistant Referee 2: Juan Pablo BELATTI (ARG)
    • Fourth official: Roberto MORENO (PAN)
    This thread is for all pre-match, play-by-play and post-match discussion and analysis of the refereeing team. Per the forum guidelines (http://forums.bigsoccer.com/threads/welcome-forum-guidelines.2003380/), this thread will be heavily moderated. For more general or partisan discussions of the match, please go to the general Group thread or the individual team forums.
     
  2. Marratacaja

    Marratacaja Member

    Mar 3, 2014
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    time for good refereeing

    inb4 he dun goofes
     
  3. Cevno

    Cevno Member+

    Aug 27, 2005
    Shifting.
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Proper Comb over with his hair.
     
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  4. puyol

    puyol Member+

    FC Barcelona
    Dec 24, 2009
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    didn't even touch him and a yellow wtf ....
     
  5. IARef96

    IARef96 Member

    Oct 19, 2010
    Clive, IA
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Clipped his ankle at the beginning of a counter... how is that not even touching him?
     
  6. Marratacaja

    Marratacaja Member

    Mar 3, 2014
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    didn't saw the contact but it looked more like a dive. the ball in the attack at 16 minutes looked waaay out though.

    gonna give my hometown man the benefit of the doubt for now
     
  7. MrRC

    MrRC Member

    Jun 17, 2009
    That was a clip of the heels from behind when the attacker was running at full speed with the ball and had open space in front of him. Screams TACTICAL FOUL = yellow card.
    This is an excellent example of how cards don't always result from reckless challenges. Sometimes it's not about how hard, but about how the foul is committed (from where [behind] and under what circumstances [during an open attacking opportunity]).
     
  8. Thug Mentality

    May 30, 2011
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  9. MrRC

    MrRC Member

    Jun 17, 2009
    Would have liked to see a yellow for the Russian tactical foul in the 61st minute.
     
  10. colman1860

    colman1860 Member

    Nov 13, 2012
    London, England
    Thought the Russian goal looked offside, but we didn't get a proper replay
     
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  11. MrRC

    MrRC Member

    Jun 17, 2009
    Had the same thought and have been waiting for a clear replay.
     
  12. puyol

    puyol Member+

    FC Barcelona
    Dec 24, 2009
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    saw another replay , looked like a handball to me too.
     
  13. Marratacaja

    Marratacaja Member

    Mar 3, 2014
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    it was offside IMO
     
  14. Marratacaja

    Marratacaja Member

    Mar 3, 2014
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
  15. srsmith111

    srsmith111 Member

    Jun 10, 2010
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
  16. chwmy

    chwmy Member+

    Feb 27, 2010
    Offside. Bang bang play but one I would expect the ar to make- the offside line is not in question. Perhaps it was hard to tell who played the ball last.
     
  17. colman1860

    colman1860 Member

    Nov 13, 2012
    London, England
    BBC just showed a conclusive replay. Onside.
     
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  18. puyol

    puyol Member+

    FC Barcelona
    Dec 24, 2009
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    yeah but the koreans were complaining that the clearance hit the player hand , did it show that in the replay ?
     
  19. jayhonk

    jayhonk Member+

    Oct 9, 2007
    Yeah it showed them complaining.
    They ought to play defense without putting their hands up like that!
     
  20. lemma

    lemma Member

    Jul 19, 2011
    CBC feed - not offside. Even with the defender behind him.

    The clearance attempt may have deflected off the upper arm of the RUS player but even if it definitively had, it would have been hard to judge that to be deliberate. It was kicked at full speed from a few yards away.
     
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  21. colman1860

    colman1860 Member

    Nov 13, 2012
    London, England
    Must be said that the decision of onside there is as good a decision as we're likely to see by an AR at this (or any) tournament. Bang-bang play, quick deflection, and the offside line is determined by the trailing foot of the defender. Going by upper bodies, it's offside.
     
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  22. jarbitro

    jarbitro Member+

    Mar 13, 2003
    N'Djamena, Tchad
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Was he not wearing his FIFA badge?
     
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  23. AremRed

    AremRed Member+

    Sep 23, 2013
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  24. AremRed

    AremRed Member+

    Sep 23, 2013
    UPDATE: I went back and did some research. At the captains meeting and right before kickoff when the camera focuses on Pitana he can be seen patting his badge several times trying to keep it on. I kept watching and his patch actually falls off his chest at 0:11! You can see it flutter to the ground and it stays there until Pitana picks it up between 1:40-1:44 and tries to stuff it in his back pocket. You can see him fumbling with his back pocket from 1:52 to 2:02.
     
  25. ChelseaSounder

    Nov 5, 2009
    Seattle, WA, USA
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This photo ended up as the subject on Reddit /r/photoshopbattles.

    Some of the posts are NSFW, many are pretty entertaining though. Mods, feel free to remove if inappropriate.
     
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