Julian Green (Bayern Munich): In-N-Out: Julian Green on loan at Hamburger SV

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  1. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
    Club:
    Levski Sofia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If a guy like Lamela can't get much time at Spurs, I have no idea what you guys would do with Green. Loan him out?

    In no way do I think he's ready for the EPL, at least not for a club near the top of the table.
     
  2. stonejh127

    stonejh127 Member+

    Sep 9, 2011
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wasn't Lamela injured for a significant part of the season?
     
  3. SoCalYid

    SoCalYid Member+

    Jun 11, 2011
    BigSoccer :)
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well Lamela was legitimately injured, prior to that AVB was just being a curmudgeon.

    I don't think he would be in the first team if the story is true he could be loaned out. That's sort of our policy anyways for players his age, they get a couple loans before they get serious looks in the first team just like Rose, Townsend, Walker, Caulker, Kane, etc. - guys like Bentaleb are anomalies. Tottenham does have a decent record of promoting players recently, you'll probably see Pritchard and Veljkovic in the first team next season.

    We have a partnership of sorts with Swindon Town which is why you see so many Tottenham players go there and the ones they buy from us all have buyback clauses, like Luongo. So that could be an option, shame they didn't get promoted 2 seasons ago. If they were in the Championship the partnership would be much better.

    It could be the case that we would loan him back to a German side immediately. Levy and Klinsmann are on speaking terms and Freund is still around maybe Klinsmann ensured him with his connects he could get him a loan in Germany if they made a bid..... IDK just speculating.
     
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  4. m vann

    m vann Moderator
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    Colorado Rapids, Celtic FC, & Louisville City
    Sep 10, 2002
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sticking it out and making a name for himself in the Bundesliga is my personal preference for Green. With that said, there is no questioning, IMO, that Spurs need to clean house. Pochettino is a good fresh start. He needs to get rid of dead weight. I'd tell Assou-Ekotto, Dawson, Saldado, Vertonghen, Kaboul, Lennon, Sando, and Sigursson they are free to look elsewhere. Some might not agree with my list and that's perfectly okay. How that relates to bringing in guys like a Julian Green, I'm not sure. Patience is wearing think at Spurs and they may not have time for a "project" like Green. That's what my head is telling me. However, Pochettino has shown he is willing to throw youngsters in there. He gives them the confidence they need to succeed. He's not afraid to go against the grain and wrestle some feathers by giving young players a shot. It's work for him. Can it work at Spurs?? That's the million dollar question. But if Pochettino is willing to go against the grain again, Green might be the type of player he targets.
     
  5. Bolivianfuego

    Bolivianfuego Your favorite Bolivian

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Va
    Club:
    Bolivar La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Great speculation--with the ties between Jurgen Klinsmann and Tottenham, not as surprising.
     
  6. stonejh127

    stonejh127 Member+

    Sep 9, 2011
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd keep Vertonghen, Lennon, Sigursson. For me, the rest could take a hike.
     
  7. Chance

    Chance Member+

    Minnesota United FC
    United States
    Apr 5, 2012
    Minneapolis, Minnesota
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Green would likely need at least two seasons on loan before being ready physically for the premier league. I also don't think this move makes a whole lot of sense from a Spurs perspective either. Lamela, Chadli and Townsend are all sub-25 years old wingers and Spurs are rumored to be after Yevhen Konoplyanka

    Lennon's performances have been on the decline for the past two seasons. He works really hard which is a bonus, but he doesn't contribute a whole lot anymore when it comes to creating chances. He obviously creates space with his great pace, but his final product is still suspect and I wouldn't be surprised if he left Spurs this window for another club.
     
  8. stonejh127

    stonejh127 Member+

    Sep 9, 2011
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nacer Chadli is terrible. Lennon is still twice the player he is on the wing. I know they play different positions but for all the shtick Jozy got for his 1 goal and 1 assist season with SUNDERLAND, Chadli managed a whopping 1 goal and two assists at TOTTENHAM.
     
  9. Sifrit

    Sifrit Member

    Mar 15, 2014
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Just last summer Leverkusen bought Emre Can for €5 million from Bayern. He was also a Regionalliga player with only 200 minutes of BL experience. It seemed rather ridiculous at the time. Today Leverkusen sold Can to Liverpool for €12 million. Nice profit.
     
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  10. icebreaker

    icebreaker Member+

    Mar 22, 2011
    Club:
    FC Nürnberg
    Alternatively, West Ham bought Savio Nsereko for 8.5 Million Euro back in 2009.

    EPL clubs have generally not been a good ground for young German talents. Hitzelsperger was the last that made a break- through, I think. The rest pretty much failed or had to come back to Germany such as Ron Robert Zieler.
     
  11. Dr.Phil

    Dr.Phil Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    2m € goes to Bayern for the buy back clause they had on Can. Can was also Bundesliga ready. Green not so much. Story doesnt make sense. Quite a bit of plauer are leaving Bayern II. Im sure they would like to keep Green who has shown promise.
     
  12. Sifrit

    Sifrit Member

    Mar 15, 2014
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I don't believe in this transfer story either but the question was if anyone had ever paid €5 million for a 4th division player. And that's what Can was last summer. At that time no one could know if he was ready for the BL because he had never played there. The only difference to Green is that Can was physically stronger at the same age.
     
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  13. Dr.Phil

    Dr.Phil Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Can was featured 4 times for what its worth for Bayern. Can was ready for the Bundesliga he just couldnt break into Bayern midfield.
     
  14. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    Some of these players are of similar quality, whereas a club like Tottenham needs to layer out its squad. It's interesting to also see what Pochettino will do with Tottenham's style because S-hampton certainly did not play like a typical EPL side under him - a lot of movement, quick passing, press.

    And Siggy actually was actually moved into a more central deeper role later in the season and responded very well.

    PS. As to young players coming or going for big bucks, had Real wanted to move Jese or Morata or Barcelona wanted to move Telio or Delofeu, there'd be a long line of suitors and they'd be walking around with fat wallets to and fro.
     
  15. Sergei_Shtaniuk

    Sergei_Shtaniuk Member+

    Dec 4, 2012
    Club:
    Stoke City FC
    Last German who became good enough for the national team over here was probably Robert Huth at Chelsea
     
  16. icebreaker

    icebreaker Member+

    Mar 22, 2011
    Club:
    FC Nürnberg
    That said, Bayern II is breaking apart currently with players leaving in droves, after not having gotten promotion, so it's likely that Green will be on the move.
     
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  17. bajansoccer

    bajansoccer Member

    Aug 28, 2011
    that is correct, went to BL to get games and viola… big move. Just need opportunity most of the time.
     
  18. Mario Balotelli

    Mario Balotelli Member+

    United States
    Feb 28, 2012
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Or that the rumor is fabricated and just another product of silly season from UK tabloids?

    You can almost hear it ripple briskly through the air. Perhaps you have seen or heard tell of this report linking Tottenham with a big money move for Julian Green. I have it on great authority that this is just another UK tabloid daydream recklessly spilled into print. Gosh, it must be nice to get paid London bucks to make shit up as if these are not real humans.

    http://www.noshortcorners.com/2014/06/flag-goes-up.html
     
  19. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
  20. Sergei_Shtaniuk

    Sergei_Shtaniuk Member+

    Dec 4, 2012
    Club:
    Stoke City FC
    German is not a sexy language
     
  21. Deeneaus

    Deeneaus Member+

    Aug 29, 2007
    America/Deutschland
    Club:
    Arminia Bielefeld
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Verpisst dich! :mad::mad::cool::p
     
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  22. Hobo

    Hobo Member+

    Apr 29, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Du Drecksack :D :p
     
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  23. (TxT)

    (TxT) Member+

    Jun 9, 2004
    Tampa, FL
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ah peer pressure, must've been feeling left out at camp.
     
  24. Gorky

    Gorky Member+

    Jul 28, 2006
    NYC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Peer pressure to speak German? ;)
     
  25. Iobates

    Iobates Member

    Jun 10, 2014
    Club:
    VfB Stuttgart

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