Alert: Abdul Latif Jameel Saudi Premier League 13-14

Discussion in 'Saudi Arabia' started by al ittihady, Aug 7, 2013.

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Who Will win

  1. Al Fateh

    1 vote(s)
    14.3%
  2. Hilal

    4 vote(s)
    57.1%
  3. Ittihad Jeddah

    2 vote(s)
    28.6%
  1. hammad_friend

    hammad_friend Member

    Dec 26, 2005
    Dubai, Karachi
    Club:
    Al Hilal Riyadh
    Nat'l Team:
    Saudi Arabia
    Nassr topping the league after beating Hilal ... still, a long way to go for the league and Hilal can still over take Nassr
     
  2. Aimar 21

    Aimar 21 Member+

    Jan 27, 2011
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    A well-deserved victory for Nassr. It's a shame this match came after NT break as both teams were playing good and finding the continuity which is surly missed after +15 stoppage days, but that makes Nassr's win more impressive as they achieved it missing the 3 Brazilians.

    The match was overall below average, Nassr played to its strength with the longs balls to a strangely very shaky Hilal's defensive line while applying high pressure in their own half.
    Hilal didn't really played a game, the build up was pathetic. GK and the 4 defenders misplayed more passes than I can remember and Castillo & Hermach didn't contribute much offensively in a field already crowded by Nassr midfielders.

    Sudairi is responsible for the 2nd goal, he was shaky the whole match too. Currently he isn't the GK for Hilal's level, maybe he will improve in the future but in all the matches he played with the 1st team he misjudge the runs outside his area way too often for a 1st choice for a club of this level. I'm not sure if Fayez will be a better option either as his struggle with the crosses but I'd give him the chance to prove himself.
    I think many of German clubs do it.
     
  3. Aimar 21

    Aimar 21 Member+

    Jan 27, 2011
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nassr 3-0 Ittihad. Itti is a total mess but Nassr impressed again and dominated the game. Both of Sahlawi goals were well-taken, I think his type of strikers are very liked by the managers in general, not the best out there with his feet but he is reliable when it comes to scoring goals.
     
  4. al ittihady

    al ittihady Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    Club:
    Al Ittihad Jeddah
    Nat'l Team:
    Saudi Arabia
    Our defense is in shatters as long as Osamah returns.
     
  5. Aimar 21

    Aimar 21 Member+

    Jan 27, 2011
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Sami Aljaber needs to realize that the 2 holding midfielders in his 4-2-3-1 won't be effective in many times against these small teams or he'll find his team sitting even further from Nassr in the league.
    Let Hermach play in the DM and move Castillo back to play as a CB, he's too slow and offensively non-productive to make a contribution against teams that set its mind to defend for the whole match.

    What's the story behind sacking the Saudi Sport Channel? it because what he has said when the fans start rioting or there are other reasons?
     
  6. al ittihady

    al ittihady Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    Club:
    Al Ittihad Jeddah
    Nat'l Team:
    Saudi Arabia
    Did not get what you want to ask..

    Sami is doing good job. I never expected him to push Hilal to the second when he took over. Most of the Saudi clubs do play in the same formation which i hate the most. He has three strikers to play with 4-4-2 but as expected Hilal is rusting both of them with only Shamrani in picture. Salem needs to excape from the club to get new life .
     
  7. Aimar 21

    Aimar 21 Member+

    Jan 27, 2011
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    #57 Aimar 21, Dec 1, 2013
    Last edited: Dec 1, 2013
    Sorry, somehow I didn't type Saudi Sport Channel commentator there. Here is the video:


    I think it's all overreaction, he shouldn't have said "the fans have the right to do this" (jeering, throwing water bottles etc..) but it's clear he didn't mean it the way it came out, and if his colleagues were judged by their words in the same level of tolerance as to Sadagah's I'm sure there won't be many commentators left to criticize by the end of the week. :D

    Regarding Sami's choices, he changed his GK in the last game which is a good move and he may not be as stubborn as other older managers. I'm actually optimistic about him but I hope he knows his team's strength before it's too late in the league.
     
  8. al ittihady

    al ittihady Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    Club:
    Al Ittihad Jeddah
    Nat'l Team:
    Saudi Arabia
    So we have it finally . Benat sacked and Fayez resigned. Both of them were moral decision. Benat did a good job by promoting youth players into the team and winning the Kings Cup but one thing he lacked was giving too many chances to the young players and ignoring the main squad players . Rashed Raheeb , Montashiri, Zayed and Hariri and others too were ignored which created the gaps in the team . Anyways , I wish him luck and great career ahead, I really liked him . I hope Calderon comes back as he is most possible candidate as the team is in ACL and he has the experience to lead. They are
    Regarding Fayez , he finally succumbed to pressure . I dont know what politics he was played with , but not able to bring any sponsorship to the team , I did not like it..

    Results -
    Shoalah 2-2 Hilal
    Shabab 1-0 Ahli
    Ittifaq 2-0 Fatehh
    Tawoon 2-1 Raed
    Najran 1-0 Faysaly
    Orubah 1-1 Nahdah
     
  9. al ittihady

    al ittihady Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    Club:
    Al Ittihad Jeddah
    Nat'l Team:
    Saudi Arabia
    Results-
    Nasser 3-2 Shabab\
    Ittifaq 3-0 Faysaly
    Sholah 1-2 Ittihad
    Nahdah 1-2 Hilal
    Orubah
    Ahli 3-2 Najran
    Orubah 1-0 Tawoon
    raed 2-2 Fateh
     
  10. al ittihady

    al ittihady Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    Club:
    Al Ittihad Jeddah
    Nat'l Team:
    Saudi Arabia
    Results-
    Raed 0-1 Sholah
    Nasser 2-1 tawoon
    Orubah 1-1 Shabab
    Ettifaq 2-0 Ahli
    Hilal 2-0 Fateh
    Ittihad 3-2 Najran
    Nahadah 0-0 Faysaly
     
  11. al ittihady

    al ittihady Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    Club:
    Al Ittihad Jeddah
    Nat'l Team:
    Saudi Arabia
    Results -
    Shabab 1-1 Ittihad
    Orubah 2-3 Hilal
    Najran 2-3 Nasser
    Ahli 1-1 Faysaly
    Tawoon 1-0 Fateh
    Ittifaq 0-1 Raed
    Shoalah 0-0 Nahdah

    Also, Saud Kariri have signed clearance papers with Ittihad which means he will be living the club . Hilal and Nasser have launched wars to sign him but I would have preferred him to go to Gulf Club. Neither ways, Ittihad is lost in league now, next will be Osamah and the list will follow.. Good work for the honary members. keep it up
     
  12. al ittihady

    al ittihady Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    Club:
    Al Ittihad Jeddah
    Nat'l Team:
    Saudi Arabia
    So , Hilal bags Saud Kariri. I cant understand the mentality of Saudi players when they leave there favourite club and join the rival club ..
    Also , Imad Hosni joins Nasser.
     
  13. al ittihady

    al ittihady Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    Club:
    Al Ittihad Jeddah
    Nat'l Team:
    Saudi Arabia
    Results -
    Ittifaq 1-5 Hilal
    Ittihad 0-0 Orubah
    Ahli 1-3 Nasser
    Fateh 2-1 Nahdha
    Faysaly 0-0 Tawoon
    Shoalah 3-1 Shabab
    Raed 1-0 Najran
     
  14. Aimar 21

    Aimar 21 Member+

    Jan 27, 2011
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I'm quite happy that Hilal signed him, he's a fantastic footballer and one of a very few players in the last decade who's been consistent in his performances and behaved professionally all his career.

    As for the mentality, I don't think many players feel the rivalry as we the fans do, and I certainly won't expect players like Kariri -although he has spent quite log time with Ittihad- to have that sort of connection with the club that make them prefer to play for a Gulf club or small club here than to play for a rival team. I'd be more surprised if that move came from one who have been playing in the youth system & 1st team for years, i.e. Alshalhoub, Altemyat.. etc.
     
  15. al ittihady

    al ittihady Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    Club:
    Al Ittihad Jeddah
    Nat'l Team:
    Saudi Arabia
    Its about money . Even Noor , moved to Nasser despite getting better offers from gulf. He is not getting time to play now. I would have preferred him to join Wehda and bring them back to glory. But for me its still very cruel to leave your favourite club and join the rivals
    BTW, Shabab does it again by bringning on Majed Marshadi to there squad. Czech national team coach Michel Blake to coach Ittihad according to reports.
     
  16. Aimar 21

    Aimar 21 Member+

    Jan 27, 2011
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Yeah I would have liked it too if Kariri returned to Quadeseyah, or Mohammed Deayea to Attaee for a couple of years before retiring, it would be a nice gesture but it's not a usual habit here like it is in most European countries.

    What do you mean by "Shabab does it again"?
     
  17. al ittihady

    al ittihady Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    Club:
    Al Ittihad Jeddah
    Nat'l Team:
    Saudi Arabia
    Signing , another Hilal player..
     
  18. Aimar 21

    Aimar 21 Member+

    Jan 27, 2011
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I have a strange feeling the he will have a relatively success over there. :D I'm waiting for the day Zori will follow him.
     
  19. al ittihady

    al ittihady Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    Club:
    Al Ittihad Jeddah
    Nat'l Team:
    Saudi Arabia
    Results -
    Najran 0-1 Shoalah
    Ittihad 2-2 Hilal
    Ettifaq 3-3 Tawoon
    Fateh 2-1 Shabab
    Nasser 3-0 Raed
    Faysaly 1-1 Orubah
    Ahli 3-1 Nahdah

    So talking about the derby , Ittihad played good game and made a mockery of young Hilal defense. Playing with all saudi players and without any foriegner in the starting line up , it was a breather for Ittihad. Now with a new coach , Juan Verzari who coached Uruguay U-20 team and Ittihad too with a very young squad to play with , it is a good tactical decision. Hope the coach and the team jells well before the ACL starts.
     
  20. Aimar 21

    Aimar 21 Member+

    Jan 27, 2011
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I think the draw was fair overall. I don't want to make a quick judgement but I don't think Castillo fits in Hilal, he has nothing to contribute in the offensive side, and he's too slow to even play in CB position.
    You need someone more creative with Kariri or you would lose more points even against teams like Nassr and Ittihad who didn't have a single non-Saudi player on their team.

    I'm not very impressed with Sami's work so far.
     
  21. al ittihady

    al ittihady Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    Club:
    Al Ittihad Jeddah
    Nat'l Team:
    Saudi Arabia
    I am impressed too. Depending on his age he has a long way to go . He is also on the line of becoming top 100 coaches of the world. A good season for him and a title will bring credintials to Saudi football. I am not ruling him out to be the coach of NT one day and other top clubs of Asia too. He must move ahead.
     
  22. Aimar 21

    Aimar 21 Member+

    Jan 27, 2011
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    #72 Aimar 21, Jan 12, 2014
    Last edited: Jan 12, 2014
    The thing is it's very difficult to start your coaching career at such a demanding club like Hilal.

    The Asian Champions League has become an obsession and the club may (or probably already did) reach a stage where it doesn't matter how many domestic trophies you win, if you failed to win that cup or at least played in the final it's not going to be enough for the fans, media, and even the club's management (if someone came in Bin Musaad's place, or simply he might has enough doubts in Sami to sack him).

    I think a minimum of 3 years is what S.Aljaber needs to make full use out of his experience with Hilal, but as I said that could be "too long" time to wait for the expectations to come true, especially if he had a bad 1st season.
    Losing the league to Nassr is quite a good reason for some people to call for his head.
     
  23. al ittihady

    al ittihady Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    Club:
    Al Ittihad Jeddah
    Nat'l Team:
    Saudi Arabia
    Hilal is not a big competition team . They are lions at home but cats outside. The media hypes a them a lot whenever they play a big match and the team get under pressure and lose the battle. The only time they looked promising was under Eric Gerets but that too was evaporated.
    I think Saudi clubs are being more patient now than before . Sami might stay for another season but still i dont undertstand why only trophies matters to this princes . You dont get a trophy you are out . The club should understand losing the league to Nasser should not be the reason as they have splashed lot of cash and have a good coach . Also no ACL pressure , they are already the champs
     
  24. Aimar 21

    Aimar 21 Member+

    Jan 27, 2011
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    #74 Aimar 21, Jan 13, 2014
    Last edited: Jan 13, 2014
    I agree with you on many points of your post.
    If it were up to me, I would have let Zlatko continue at the head of coaching staff for this season and make Sami take over the under 23 years team for at least one season to ease things a bit and to not build the enormous pressure that comes with the big expectation they have of him now.

    A lot of people are already writing him off, the most important thing for me this season is to get to the round of 16 in ACL, Nassr are playing fantastic this season so I don't know about the league but the 2nd position won't be that bad if his team did well in Crown Prince Cup & Champions Cup.

    I think both of them carry much less significance than the league but it will give Sami something to build on for the next season
     
  25. al ittihady

    al ittihady Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    Club:
    Al Ittihad Jeddah
    Nat'l Team:
    Saudi Arabia
    The people writing him off are the real craps who is destroying the Saudi football.
     

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