2013 NCAA Tournament

Discussion in 'Women's College' started by raiderD15, Nov 15, 2013.

  1. Cliveworshipper

    Cliveworshipper Member+

    Dec 3, 2006

    Her bio on the UCLA site lists her best 100m time as 12.25

    Her time in the 40 would be more instructive anyway. Best I have seen for a soccer player is 4.7
     
  2. anthem

    anthem Member

    Nov 26, 2013
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    http://www.uclabruins.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=30500&ATCLID=208188060

    everything on that site appears to be out of date - but this is where I got it "set a school record 11.90 in the 100m". and while 40m times are frequently more indicative, its not like you're going to make up /that/ much time in the latter half of the 100m. 11.90 while not world class sprinter speed, is world class on a soccer pitch. . They don't have official times for Gareth Bale, but he ran 11.4 when he was in high school and he's ridiculously fast (albeit I would bet he's in the high 10's now vs 11.4).
     
  3. law10

    law10 Member+

    Dec 26, 2007
    Seem to remember Ben Johnson trying out for low-level pro teams and not making it. There are plenty of fast players not worth $100 let alone $100,000,000 transfers. Gareth Bale has been a soccer player his entire life and his best speed is of thought and knowing what's going to happen.

    And yes, 100 is representative enough for the 40. I'd argue the 400 is good gauge too. If you know someone with a really quick 400, they're usually fast enough to stand out on a soccer field.
     
  4. AnsonBlonde

    AnsonBlonde Member

    Jul 27, 2007
  5. Soccerpup

    Soccerpup Member

    Oct 13, 2013
    She played Region 1 ODP and from what I remember, she is a great keeper. However, she frequently seemed to be injury-prone, which is surprising given her size. If she was injured, I wish her well.
     
  6. BoxxRocks

    BoxxRocks Member

    Aug 5, 2004
    Club:
    Carolina
    What exactly is up with this? For reasons of my own I was pulling for VT over FSU in the semis, but the Hokie fans were so obnoxious shouting "USA! USA!" every time one of FSU's international players got the ball, I had second thoughts.

    I'm no FSU fan, but I think it is classless and ungracious to attack them on the basis of their having non-US players on their roster -- much less to attack those players themselves.
     
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  7. uncchamps2012

    uncchamps2012 Member

    Jul 9, 2011
    She is certainly the fastest female player I have ever seen in person. I can't remember exactly when it happened in the second half, but there was a ball played back back FSU from a forward to a midfielder. Courtnall came from absolutely nowhere to step up and steal the pass, which was really not a bad pass if one assumed human level speed from the backs. but, courtnall is just ridiculously fast and very skilled.
     
  8. anthem

    anthem Member

    Nov 26, 2013
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I didn't understand this either. I heard it constantly with the hokie fans whenever the Icelandic girls touched the ball. Sounded like a football crowd from some of them as they didn't understand the concept of advantage and not every play had to be stopped to address small insignificant fouls if advantage could be played. And that a slide tackle was not a foul if the ball was won (though fields of fsu does slide tackle dangerously at times).

    The irony of the whole thing is that I think colpitts heir keeper is from canada if I recall. Hypocritical but I guess they are overlooking that or don't realize that Canada is not part of the USA <smirk>
     
  9. trainwreck

    trainwreck Member

    Sep 1, 2008
    You guys are really getting down on the fans for trying to create some atmosphere at a soccer match?

    Give me a break.

    Take it from someone who has been on the field, the last thing you want is to play in front of a silent crowd. If you aren't getting cheered, the next best thing is being booed. It still gives you energy you can feed off of while you play.

    (And before some of you start clutching your pearls-- I am not including racial taunts, homophobia, etc. in my defense of a a rowdy opposition.)
     
  10. BruBru

    BruBru Member

    Nov 7, 2011
    A Tech fan was escorted out of the stands by two uniformed individuals, and they called in extra security to stand around their section. I thought maybe they just really disliked FSU :)
     
  11. Smallchief

    Smallchief Member+

    Oct 27, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    I thought Santa Clara was the team I most liked to watch -- but I may become a UCLA fan. What a pair Dydesco and Courtnall are! Exciting in two different ways.
     
  12. Cliveworshipper

    Cliveworshipper Member+

    Dec 3, 2006

    Portland's student section is legendary for being loud and supportive. In a very few cases they cross over into bad taste, but they are best when they are funny in their taunts, and even opponents seem to get a kick out of it. I recall one case where Dahlstream scored a goal and ran over to the student section and flipped them off after. They "cheered" her. Another time the students noticed an opponent wearing a dark thong in on one of those white kit wet teeshirt moments. The taunting then was pretty relentless, but even she took it in stride.
     
  13. RUBlind

    RUBlind Member

    Nov 8, 2011
    Someone
    The kid has game.
    Someone mentioned her time in the forty. She has an explosive start and sprinters acceleration, throw in her great anticipation & ability to finish. Teams are probably thankful she plays defense.
     
  14. Cliveworshipper

    Cliveworshipper Member+

    Dec 3, 2006

    Marvell Wynne. 10.83 in high School.
    Christiano Ronaldo. Timed on film doing 10 flat for 96 meters in full kit during a match.

    Bale is a tortoise.
     
  15. BoxxRocks

    BoxxRocks Member

    Aug 5, 2004
    Club:
    Carolina
    No, not for creating atmosphere. Initially I was quite impressed, clearly they bought out an entire section of reserved seats and from where I sat were the most supportive of all the teams' fans.

    I just think maybe you should add xenophobia to the list of things not included in the definition of rowdy opposition. Save the "USA!" chants for when the national team is playing in an international match.
     
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  16. anthem

    anthem Member

    Nov 26, 2013
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Diverging off topic but Bale and Ronaldo are both clocked at 25mph. . both are very similar in speed though I have to say Ronaldo is a more complete player at this moment. . Don't forget that 96m 10sec run was a moving start. . big difference between a running start and a start from stop.

    In reference to another post - yes - someone probably needs to consider putting her as a winger with her ball skills. She has the tendencies because she cuts the ball infield. . perhaps it might be vision or ball control skills but both can be acquired. But she is deadly with that kind of pace and she has the motor to go with it .
     
  17. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's an interesting issue for me. Until recently, my general feeling was that I did not like US public colleges recruiting non-US athletes. My feeling wasn't generated from soccer, but rather from tennis where the proportion of non-US players is very large, most likely impairing tennis development in the US. Then, a young woman I coached who plays DI tennis (not a public college) told me what a wonderful experience it is being on a team with players from all around the world and how much it means to all of them. I changed my mind.
     
  18. UNC4EVER

    UNC4EVER Member

    Sep 27, 2007
    I have heard really stupid and xenophobic comments about the FSU team both on the internet and in the stands. I find it depressing that people who love a sport I care so much about can still be So Stupid, but there it is; ya gotta share the stands with a certain number of cretins. If anybody wants to be offended by FSU (and I am), lets focus on the Noles pseudo-Native -American theme which underscores what a great job a previous generation of non-Americans did at destroying and trivializing a culture with many thousands of years of history. That is (perhaps) worth getting one's panties in a twist about. Offering a great educational opportunity to an outstanding group of international players who are delighted by the opportunity and who enhance the quality of our game is nothing to complain about! But really, guys, do you FSU fans Understand why you have perhaps not recruited any great Native American players? I'm all for school tradition, but I'm just sayin'....
     
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  19. anthem

    anthem Member

    Nov 26, 2013
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    thats a tough one. . if you're using the schools culture or whatever as the basis for recruiting - then I think /many/ schools would have a difficult time with this. . are we saying that most of ND's players are catholic, much less irish catholic (applies to BC, Big East schools, and a few others). Those big football players certainly don't look irish catholic to me either. ..

    But I agree with you that there is nothing wrong with the diversity of international players in making the game and educational experience greater. I hated that USA chant when I heard it over the weekend. It was absurd and even more when they themselves had international players on their own team. . I'll give credit that they brought fans and they were loud and boisterous.
     
  20. uncchamps2012

    uncchamps2012 Member

    Jul 9, 2011
    Of all the sports to appreciate an international contribution, soccer has got to be the one where we ought to embrace the influence the most.
     
  21. gogogo

    gogogo Member

    Apr 18, 2002
    Couldn't agree more. And if ND can recruit another Anne Makinen or Gudrun Gunnarsdottir or Candace Chapman or Monica Gonzalez or Melissa Tancredi, to name just a few, I hope the Irish can get them. Wish we had Campbell of FSU (and Ireland) with those long throw-ins.
     
  22. Romario'sgurl

    Romario'sgurl Member+

    Wakanda FC
    Aug 26, 2000
    Wakanda
    Club:
    FC Ingolstadt 04
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    #947 Romario'sgurl, Dec 10, 2013
    Last edited: Dec 10, 2013
    Well, football is the "World's Game". Despite popular belief, the sport wasn't invented in 1994....:whistling:

    Not being an FSU fan, I have to say that I'm very impressed with the soccer program's commitment to cultural diversity. Anyone who has spent time in Tallahassee knows that the city ain't exactly Orlando, which makes their recruiting even more impressive. Kudos to them for maintaining the spirit of the game.
     
  23. HatchGK

    HatchGK Member

    Dec 5, 2009
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Because FSU recruits international students you think that the coach is trying to add cultural diversity to Tallahassee? Not knowing the coach personally I cannot know his thought process, but I would guess it is not of a humanitarian commitment. It is a winning commitment. He has always had an international flavor at all the universities he coached. And, he has won at all is collegiate stops. Plus the caliber of the internationals is very high, not just filling roster spots.

    And to comment on the U-S-A chants from Va Tech as xenophobic is ridiculous. It is non threatening and innocent. Maybe a little silly since they have a whopping ONE international. Heck if that was the case then the Olympics or World Cup would be as well, since the whole idea is to show ones superiority over all others.
     
  24. law10

    law10 Member+

    Dec 26, 2007
    If people have an issue with regulations allowing scholarships to international students they should take it up with the NCAA. Taunting young women in a game over it is a classless and unintelligent form of expression.
     
  25. holden

    holden Member+

    Dundee FC, Yeovil Town LFC, Girondins de Bordeaux
    Oct 20, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Dundee FC
    No. Xenophobia is the intense or irrational dislike or fear of people from other countries (source). If you are watching a US game and chant USA you are supporting a team, not hating on people from another country. If you are watching a game between two teams not representing their country made up of players from all over the world and one team happens to have a majority of them and you support the other and choose to chant the country that both teams are based in, then you are showing an irrational dislike of people from other countries. So that is xenophobia.
     

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