This info is taken from statistical section of the 1977 book "My Life And The Beautiful Game" by Pelé. AUSTRIA 07-02-1959 0-3 – Austria Wien 1 defeat 0-3 goals 0 goals scored by Pelé BELGIUM 05-26-1959 1-0 - Royal Standard 05-27-1959 4-2 2 RSC Anderlecht 05-30-1959 1-2 – Gentoise 05-19-1960 4-3 1 Royal Standard 05-28-1960 6-0 2 RSC Anderlecht 05-31-1960 10-1 4 Royal Beerschot 06-11-1960 5-2 2 Gentoise 06-12-1960 3-1 – Selection Antwerp 06-04-1961 4-4 – Selection Antwerp 03-01-1972 0-0 – RSC Anderlecht 03-06-1973 1-0 – Royal Standard 8 wins, 2 draws, 1 defeat 39-15 goals 11 goals scored by Pelé 73 % won 28 % of Santos goals scored by Pelé Average result: 4-1, 1 goal by Pelé CSSR 02-15-1959 3-4 – UDA Duklas 01-16-1965 6-4 3 Selection CSSR 01-13-1968 4-1 – Selection CSSR 2 wins, 1 defeat 13-9 goals 3 goals scored by Pelé 67 % won 23 % of Santos goals scored by Pelé Average result: 4-3, 1 goal by Pelé ENGLAND 10-22-1961 4-2 1 Sheffield Wednesday 09-22-1969 3-2 2 Stoke City 09-21-1970 2-2 2 West Ham United 02-02-1971 1-0 – FC Chelsea 02-21-1972 1-2 – Aston Villa 02-23-1972 2-0 - Sheffield Wednesday 06-04-1972 4-2 3 Newcastle United 06-13-1972 2-2 1 Coventry City 5 wins, 2 draws, 1 defeat 19-12 goals 9 goals scored by Pelé 63 % won 47 % of Santos goals scored by Pelé Average result: 2-1, 1 goal by Pelé FRANCE 06-07-1960 5-3 1 Stade Reims 06-09-1960 4-1 1 Racing Paris 06-17-1960 3-1 1 Stade Reims 06-23-1960 3-0 2 FC Toulouse 06-07-1961 6-1 1 Racing Paris 06-09-1961 6-2 2 Olympique Lyonnais 06-13-1961 5-4 1 Racing Paris 10-17-1962 5-2 2 Racing Paris 03-31-1971 0-0 – Selection Marseille / St. Etienne 8 wins, 1 draw 37-14 goals 11 goals scored by Pelé 89 % won 30 % of Santos goals scored by Pelé Average result: 4-2, 1 goal by Pelé GREECE 06-28-1961 3-0 1 AEK Athens 06-30-1961 3-2 2 Panathinaikos Athens 07-04-1961 1-2 – Olimpiakos Piraeus 08-24-1966 1-0 – AEK Athens 3 wins, 1 defeat 8-4 goals 3 goals scored by Pelé 75 % won 38 % of Santos goals scored by Pelé Average result: 2-1, 1 goal by Pelé HUNGARY 02-10-1967 2-2 1 Vasas Budapest 01-23-1968 4-0 1 Vasas Budapest 1 wins, 1 draw 6-2 goals 2 goals scored by Pelé 50 % won 33 % of Santos goals scored by Pelé Average result: 3-1, 1 goal by Pelé IRELAND 02-26-1972 3-2 – Bohemians Drumcondra 1 win 3-2 goals 0 goals scored by Pelé ITALY 06-05-1959 2-3 2 Inter Milano 06-26-1959 7-1 4 Inter Milano 06-30-1959 4-2 - Genoa 06-01-1960 3-2 1 AS Roma 06-03-1960 0-3 – Fiorentina 06-18-1960 2-0 1 Juventus Torino 06-21-1961 5-0 2 AS Roma 06-24-1961 4-1 1 Inter Milano 06-15-1963 4-3 2 AS Roma 06-19-1963 0-2 – Inter Milano 06-22-1963 0-4 – AC Milan 06-26-1963 3-5 1 Juventus Torino 10-16-1963 2-4 2 AC Milan 11-14-1963 4-2 – AC Milan 09-05-1966 4-1 1 Inter Milano 06-17-1967 2-1 1 Mantua 06-20-1967 1-0 – Venice 06-24-1967 5-1 3 US Lecce 06-27-1967 1-1 – Fiorentina 06-29-1967 3-1 1 AS Roma 08-26-1967 0-1 – Inter Milano 06-09-1968 2-1 – Cagliari 06-12-1968 2-0 1 Alexandria 06-21-1968 4-2 1 SSC Napoli 06-26-1968 6-2 2 SSC Napoli 06-28-1968 5-2 2 SSC Napoli 06-24-1969 1-0 – Inter Milano 09-24-1969 7-1 2 Combination Geneva / Genoa 06-23-1971 2-1 1 Bologna 06-27-1971 1-1 - Bologna 06-30-1971 1-0 1 Bologna 03-03-1972 2-0 – AS Roma 03-05-1972 3-2 2 SSC Napoli 04-29-1972 1-0 – SSC Napoli 05-01-1972 3-2 2 Cagliari 06-25-1972 7-1 2 Catanzaro 05-25-1973 3-0 1 Lazio Roma 05-28-1973 4-2 2 Lazio Roma 29 wins, 2 draws, 7 defeats 110-55 goals 41 goals scored by Pelé 76 % won 37 % of Santos goals scored by Pelé Average result: 3-1, 1 goal by Pelé NETHERLANDS 06-03-1959 3-0 1 Feijenoord Rotterdam 06-15-1959 5-0 3 Selection Enschede 2 wins 8-0 goals 4 goals scored by Pelé 100 % won 50 % of Santos goals scored by Pelé Average result: 4-0, 2 goals by Pelé PORTUGAL 06-19-1957 6-1 3 Belenses 07-23-1957 3-2 1 Benfica Lisboa 06-19-1959 2-2 1 Sporting Lisboa 06-15-1961 6-3 2 Benfica Lisboa 09-19-1962 3-2 2 Benfica Lisboa 10-11-1962 5-2 3 Benfica Lisboa 08-21-1966 4-0 1 Benfica Lisboa 08-18-1968 4-2 – Benfica Lisboa 09-01-1968 3-3 – Benfica Lisboa 7 wins, 2 draws 36-17 goals 13 goals scored by Pelé 78 % won 36 % of Santos goals scored by Pelé Average result: 4-2, 1 goal by Pelé SPAIN 06-17-1959 3-5 1 Real Madrid 06-24-1959 4-4 1 FC Valencia 06-28-1959 5-1 2 FC Barcelona 07-05-1959 2-2 1 Betis Sevilla 06-19-1960 2-2 – Espanol Barcelona 06-25-1960 1-0 – FC Valencia 07-02-1960 3-4 1 FC Barcelona 06-12-1963 0-2 – FC Barcelona 08-28-1967 1-4 – Deportivo Espanol Malaga 08-29-1967 2-1 – Malaga 09-17-1969 3-1 – Atletico Madrid 08-31-1974 0-2 – Espanol Barcelona 09-01-1974 1-4 1 FC Elche 09-03-1974 3-2 2 Real Zaragoza 5 wins, 3 draws, 6 defeats 30-34 goals 9 goals scored by Pelé 36 % won 30 % of Santos goals scored by Pelé Average result: 2-2, 1 goal by Pelé SWEDEN 01-12-1957 1-0 – AIK Stockholm 1 win 1-0 goals 0 goals scored by Pelé SWITZERLAND 06-09-1959 4-1 1 Servette Geneva 06-01-1961 8-2 3 FC Basel 06-15-1968 4-5 1 FC Zürich 2 wins, 1 defeat 16-8 goals 5 goals scored by Pelé 66 % won 31 % of Santos goals scored by Pelé Average result: 5-3, 2 goals by Pelé WEST GERMANY 06-06-1959 6-4 1 Fortuna Düsseldorf 06-07-1959 3-3 – 1. FC Nuremberg 06-11-1959 6-0 1 Selection Hamburg 06-13-1959 7-1 3 Selection Lower-Saxony 05-27-1960 9-1 3 TSV 1860 Munich 06-01-1960 4-2 2 Eintracht 06-15-1960 4-2 1 Selection Berlin 06-03-1961 6-3 2 VfL Wolfsburg 06-26-1961 8-6 3 Karlsruher SC 10-20-1961 3-3 2 FC Hamburg 05-29-1963 3-2 1 Selection Lower-Saxony 06-02-1963 2-1 1 FC Schalke 04 06-05-1963 5-2 4 Eintracht 06-08-1963 3-1 1 VfB Stuttgart 06-13-1967 5-4 2 TSV 1860 Munich 06-17-1967 3-0 1 Selection Saarland 07-30-1971 3-1 – Hannover 96 02-27-1973 0-3 – Combination Bavaria 06-10-1973 5-0 1 Arminia Bielefeld 16 wins, 2 draws, 1 defeat 85-39 goals 29 goals scored by Pelé 84 % won 34 % of Santos goals scored by Pelé Average result: 4-2, 2 goals by Pelé YUGOSLAVIA 06-22-1957 1-1 1 Dinamo Zagreb 09-10-1969 3-3 1 Red Star Belgrade 09-12-1969 1-1 – Dinamo Zagreb 09-15-1969 4-4 1 Danick Kragulevac 09-19-1969 1-1 1 Zeljesnicar 5 draws 10-10 goals 4 goals scored by Pelé 0 % won 40 % of Santos goals scored by Pelé Average result: 2-2, 1 goal by Pelé
Amazing, I imagine that if Pele's Santos had played in the Champions League, they would have won quite a few of them.
it shows how stupid are those guys saying that Pele wasnt tested agains europeans defenses...Anyone who have seen Pele Eterno knows he used to humillate them...
I saw this match in a torrential downpour in Hong Kong. One of Pele's goals was one of the best that I have ever seen. IIRC, he received a ball inside the penalty area. He chested the ball, then played it twice with his thigh, once with his foot, and then shot it into the goal. During this sequence, the ball never touched the ground and he beat at least two defenders on the way. Edited to say that he might have headed the ball once in that sequence too.
06-17-1959 3-5 1 Real Madrid If anyone has this game as a .torrent, I will be your servant for a month.
A debt of gratitude for the time you spent compiling this from the book appendix. I have the book and know how daunting a task it is. Did you put the full numbers in spreadsheet (e-mailable?) Should the thread be merged with your previous effort Career Stats: PELÉ , for completeness? cheers
It is said that a large portion of Pele's games with Santos were burned in a fire forever lost, but surely these European clubs have footage of these matches??
Friendlies mean absolutely nothing. If they won Libertadores once, and one other time when they started from semi-finals, I think they might or might not have won EC once.
You do NOT have to THINK! FACT said: Pele took Santos to demolish Benfica of Eusebio (EC winner 62) and AC Milan or Rivera (EC winner 63) with an UNBROKEN STATS: 7goals+4ass/3games (2 vs Benfica, and 1 vs MIlan)
Yeah, one or two games in different points of season for both, when you have never even seen the other play, mean absolutely nothing. When they would play in Europe, they would constantly be tested by European teams, and tactics would be quickly be adjusted accordingly.
NOt it was YOU who never watched Pele played and should NOT have any credential to comment whatsoever. For your info (refer to this thread in details) Pele got 1.4 GPG against MOST EUROPEAN clubs (from >7 different leagues) from 59-68 - here we talked of 10years, and over 120games .... (NOT 1 NOR 2 like your BS)
Stop talking about friendlies, if you want to argue about something, Games are completely different when the competitive factor isn't present.
You should NOT be here . or should you be here to ... "learn" OK? Yours (comment) are like some jerk's saying : "That guy Pele?, he only scored goals in friendlies., and ... BTW who he was really? I don;t know! " Go back to your Messi, I think you do know a few things a bout him
Sorry for my (mean) tone! But your argument is totally off chart! Now let me explain the FACT (about your "friendly goals" of Pele) Pele was the ONLY player that FIFA had granted the label 1000's goals scored (out of 5 names who did accumulate that number: Sr Freidenrich, Biscan, Muller and Romario) . WHY? Firs and foremost, it's NOT because FIFA loved Pele NOR they tried to promote a "black guy" like many "ignorant" claimed around, but there are several reasons: 1- Those friendly (like Greg did a good sum up) games were happened in a TENSION and PRESSURE ambiance (not like any friendly games now aday) . For most Euro teams at time were so curious to challenge the so called "King" who they did not really buy into! Also, that era (60's) there are NO LAWS to protect attackers and most DF were ready to DETHRONE Pele's label. 2- At that time, Pele had won WC58 (and 2nd in 62), and a few Paulista (unofficial best team in Brazil) and not every players teams (at time) had chance to watch him or Santos playing! So the Euro teams were ready to DEMOLISH a (no name) club with a so called "best player" from the other half of the Earth! (note that in that era no law of protection for Attacker so DF had all MEANS to disturb/chop down the KID (he was only 17-20) 3- Beside those scenarios, Pele was PROVEN with his STATS (>1.2GPG which was great and RARE at time ) for whole 10 consecutive years, against any teams (SA or Europe) , in any tournaments (Brazil Euro Copa WC) = meaning regardless friendly or not, PELE will SCORE goals! 4- LAstly, moving on , Pele won 2 libertadores and "demolished " two best EC winners to win 2 intercontinental cups, and by 70, his STATS presented a 1.4 GPG vs 40+ European teams (from EPL, Liga, Hungary, SerieA, Bundesliga, Hungary, Greece, Austia ....) Based of those 4: FIFA ACCEPTED those "extra 200+ goals" (from friendlies) to Pele's 800's official goals = 1000+goals career!
can't say that. friendly matches are different. in friendly matches defenders whill not try to stop an attacker no matter what. in matches that have somethign at stake they will do anything to stop an attacker
go back and read my earlier post! Pele got more or less same GPG in Brazil/copa/WC to that of Euro friedly tour. Pele led Santos to win 2 libertaodores + 2 intercontinental cups = equivalent at least 2 UCL (granted he would play for Barca/Real/ManU/Inter ... at that time His 7goals+4ass/3 games vs Benfica and Milan (EC/UCL winners) PROVED he would easily won EC and being topscorer there (more than 1 or 2 minimum)
Rightly so .. one should know there is NO yellow cards to penalize a bad tackles back then (before 70) The pitch was like a battle field without much law so DF had all rights and weapons to shut down an attacker at will! Attackers had ONLY one weapon to beat them :" his talent" After the few bad incidence at WC66 ... (Pele got chop off that tourney "deliberately", and got severe injured) He then RETIRED from Brazil NT (FIFA games) to protest that. As the result, FIFA changed the LAW at WC70 and the KING was back to his best there
JamesBH11's views make a lot of sense.Back then both America and Europe represented two rather markedly different footballing cultures.They had their own playing styles,tactics,there were even differences over which tackle qualified as a foul. They had their own set of top teams,great players,legends and so on.Both sides would have been a proud lot of their footballing standards/accomplishments.Hence a game between Pele's Santos and any Euro team would definitely have evoked a lot of curiosity/interest not just amongst the people of either continent but also amongst the players too.The organizers just tapped into this.That's why Euro tours by Santos and other Brazilian club teams including Bota of Garincha happened in the first place.In the event of such a match,friendly or official,there would have been a healthy rivalry/competition between the teams/players.An opportunity to test skills for both sides Therefore the backdrop was quite different from what it is now when a friendly happens between two Euro club teams. This point leads to a question.If the defence wasn't serious enough to stop the attackers then the same should apply for the attackers too.They too wouldn't be seriously motivated to score.By this logic it would mean that this good showing of Pele against Euro teams was that of a non serious Pele.By extension,it would mean a serious Pele would have done far greater damage.
Here is my short take in all of this. Many people cannot, for whatever reason give players from earlier generations their just due. I have often listened to many people say that Pele played against farmers in South America and with the statistical proof here against European clubs the argument against his greatness has to degrade to the opposition never tried. Players of beltgone eras are never given credit for their skills or athleticism since it is not possible to some they could ever compete today though these people never take into consideration the rules that change to make the game safer and easier to score. Pelé was great no matter what the era. I saw him play when he was old when he played for the Cosmos. He was still great. Give him credit or just leave it alone. Nobody ever wins an argument on the Internet. That turned out longer than I suspected.
It's absolutely amazing to see all these stats, that shows how great Pele was. For me he is the greatest of all time for a simple reason: as it's almost impossible to compare players from different Eras and we also don't know how great a player born in the 80's, 90's would be if they played in the 60's, and we also don't know how great Pele would be if he was playing in the 90's, 2000's, I believe the most accurate way to compare players is to analyse how greater they were than other players from the same Era, once all of them played under the same conditions, same rules and so on. And then it's easy to acknowledge that Pele was far greater than all player from his Era than Maradona, Ronaldo, Messi and Cristiano were. I also would like to mention that Brazil's teams were amongst the best in world back then, if you check all Brazil National team's players in World Cup 58', World Cup 62' and World Cup 70' you will notice that most of them (if not all of them) played in Brazil, so I can securely state that Brazil had one of the strongest leagues in the World (if not the strongest one) back then