The 2012 US Presidential Race Post-Mortem

Discussion in 'Elections' started by American Brummie, Nov 7, 2012.

  1. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
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    It was clear as day by then. It's at that point where Democrats should have decided that good governance was more important than consensus.
     
  2. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Note that Tom Coburn was on the conspirator list. He likes to market himself as straight-shooting Tom, the man who is above partisanship. Uh-huh.
     
  3. raza_rebel

    raza_rebel Member+

    Dec 11, 2000
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  4. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Read the blog's comments. Those aren't people who can be reasoned with or bargained with. There's nothing Obama could ever say or do, ever, that could earn him credit with those folks.

    So why should he bother?
     
  5. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
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    Comments? The article by Rick "Get a Brain" Moran should suffice. I love his crescendo ending...

    Those conservatives who constantly warned that we should watch what Obama does and not what he says can now relax. The president's rhetoric has now caught up with his ideology We are in for 4 years of struggle that will define America for decades - perhaps forever.​


    That is one hell of a tizzy he's in.
     
  6. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
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    I will say one thing, the my conservative "friends" on Facebook are in a gigantic tizzy over Obama.. I even had one suggest that Obama walk down main street on a deep South city without his armed guards to prove how safe gun control is.
     
  7. guignol

    guignol Moderator
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    Apr 28, 2005
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    if defining america perhaps forever means setting up boncentration bamps for this kind of yokel i say define away you kenyan devil you!
     
  8. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    There's no way I'm smart enough to understand the intended point for that one.
     
  9. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
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    It's part of the theories that gun ownership makes you safer and that making gun ownership illegal (or making acquisition of guns more difficult) will result in a situation where the only people with guns will be criminals
     
  10. Mattbro

    Mattbro Member+

    Sep 21, 2001
    Why does it have to be a Deep South city? Why not Chicago, the usual target of gun nut ridicule?
     
  11. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
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    LOL. You'll have to ask the person that posted it. I'm guessing they figured it would be a place where Obama was least liked, therefore the lack of an armed guard would create the greatest risk to his personal safety?
     
  12. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    I guess what I'm getting at is ... there is gun control in Deep South cities?
     
  13. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
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    Seattle Sounders
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    United States
    Hey, no one said they were making sense.. We're talking about people that actually think they are scoring points because the Secret Service protects Obama's daughters...
     
  14. Barbara

    Barbara BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 29, 2000
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  15. Barbara

    Barbara BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 29, 2000
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  16. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Yup. Well death tax at least, don't know about death panels. He's very good at what he does.

    Speaking of which, Frank's former client Newt is talking strange. In contrast with other Republicans, Newt said that he liked Obama's inaugural speech, that it was thoroughly American in its values, and that there were only a couple of sentences that gave him pause. Don't know what that's all about.
     
  17. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
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    Newt Gingrich is a reasonable person when he's not running for some sort of office. He's a dinosaur-phile.
     
  18. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
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    Meaning that he tells his audiences that he used to play with the dinosaurs when he was a kid, growing up in Georgia..
     
  19. JG

    JG Member+

    Jun 27, 1999
    Because the Dem electoral strategy is to paint the Repubs as unreasonable obstructionists, which they accomplish by adopting the almost-Repub position on all the issues and then getting no Repub votes anyway. Some Dem strategist somewhere can't understand why they aren't winning all the elections with 98% of the vote.
     
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  20. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    That's an OK electoral strategy in the short term but it's a shitty, shitty governing strategy.
     
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  21. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
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    You're right. Repealing DADT, refusing to defend DOMA, executive-ordering in the DREAM Act, Dodd-Frank, Lily Ledbetter, or a TON of the Affordable Care Act (like contraceptives), were all parts of prior Republican agendas. Obama may have moved to the middle on the mandate, cap-and-trade, foreign policy, and a whole host of other things, but the Republicans have a pretty good reason to not like a lot of his stuff. Their intransigence to his very being (black) has made them look like unreasonable obstructionists, but were he a different (white) man, they'd still oppose a lot of it - just not unanimously.
     
  22. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
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  23. Mattbro

    Mattbro Member+

    Sep 21, 2001
    Ed Rendell mentioned something interesting the other day. If the GOP goes forward with this vote-stealing scheme, many more states will go forward with their plan to apportion all of their EVs to the winner of the popular vote. At that point it will be over for the GOP and its dirty tricks strategy.
     
  24. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
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    I also think that if the GOP goes forward with this, the way we apportion Congressional Districts will become nonpartisan veeeeery quickly.
     
  25. MasterShake29

    MasterShake29 Member+

    Oct 28, 2001
    Jersey City, NJ
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    New York Red Bulls
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    How in the hell is this "vote stealing"?

    God didn't decree the current way 48 states choose electors. Nor does the Constitution.
     

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