Guide to the Bundesliga/German Football -Picking a club, info, etc.

Discussion in 'Germany' started by grapedog, Dec 23, 2010.

  1. 96Squig

    96Squig Member

    Feb 4, 2004
    Hanover
    Club:
    Hannover 96
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I think this is so if they have to change fictures for whatever reasons they can't get sued, you should still plan with the times they announce there (if DFB has confirmed them), or at least 3-4 weeks in advance, it is very uncommon for them to change.
     
  2. Hobo

    Hobo Member+

    Apr 29, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    1. It can be based on a handful of reasons such as security having do with fan travel across the nation, attractive games, which teams are also playing in European competition, etc.
    2. It is usually announced several weeks in advance, not last minute, though there have been a few last minute changes at times. For example, Stuttgart's match was just moved from Sunday to Saturday because of their match in Russia on Tuesday. This is rare, however, because the Bundesliga is very good at setting a schedule and sticking to it.
    Presently, the schedule is set through matchday 16, which you can tell here by looking for both a date and time next to the matchup.I am not sure about round 17 because it is the last weekend before the break, but it should be set fairly soon.
    http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/...012-13/bayern-muenchen-14/vereinstermine.html

    Overall, the Bundesliga has a set schedule based on weekends but setting the exact days and times allows the league some flexibility in having the best games at the best times.
     
  3. Homa

    Homa Member

    Feb 4, 2008
    Aachen
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I'd say it mostly has to do with cup games. The DFL tries to schedule matches in a way that every team has at least three days between matches. The last DFP-Pokal round this year is only a couple of days after the 17th match day, the yet unscheduled one. The match day will be finalized after the next cup draw at the beginning of November when you know how the cup round looks like.

    The pattern becomes much more visible in the second half when the knock out stages for the European competitions begin. The Bundesliga will usually finalize its schedule shortly after UEFA draws the next rounds. An additional burden are canceled league matches which happens much more often in winter.

    Travel arrangements are important in scheduling, too, but they could be incorporated at the beginning of the season. They give no reason to wait until a couple of weeks before the match. TV most probably has some influence, too, but I have the impression it is limited and subject to the "three days rest period".
     
  4. The Potter

    The Potter Member+

    Aug 26, 2004
    England
    Club:
    Stoke City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I've got a very silly question. I was watching the Bundesliga Highlights Show on the ITVplayer (very good show btw) and they have a mascot who looks like he's in a hippo suit shadowboxing in the intro, what club is that?
     
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  5. Alex_K

    Alex_K Member+

    Mar 23, 2002
    Braunschweig, Germany
    Club:
    Eintracht Braunschweig
    Nat'l Team:
    Bhutan
    Gladbach have a horse and HSV a dinosaur, those are the closest to a hippo I can think of.
     
  6. Derazor

    Derazor Member

    May 20, 2008
    Germany
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  7. The Potter

    The Potter Member+

    Aug 26, 2004
    England
    Club:
    Stoke City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Possibly, the stripes seem the same. It's doing my head in.
     
  8. Homa

    Homa Member

    Feb 4, 2008
    Aachen
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I hate hate hate the mascots. They have for the most part absolutely nothing to do with the clubs themselves.
     
  9. snahdog

    snahdog Member

    Mar 31, 2006
    Atlanta
    You've never heard of the famous Stuttgart Neckar Crocodiles?
     
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  10. Cazlon

    Cazlon Member

    Aug 17, 2005
    Pretoria/Berlin
    Club:
    Hertha BSC Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    The mascot in the intro is Hertha's Hertinho and the shadowboxing scene is shot in the Olympiastadion. It's supposed to be a bear by the way ;)
     
  11. NUFCBayern

    NUFCBayern Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 9, 2004
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    HSV has a dinosaur. Makes sense (never relegated).
    Hertha has a bear. Makes sense (city of Berlin).
    BVB has a bee. Makes sense.
    Bayern has a bear. Umm...
    Schalke has a weird-looking man. Makes sense. :p
     
  12. Homa

    Homa Member

    Feb 4, 2008
    Aachen
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Schalke's mascot is the worst. I think he symbolizes a miner though he is creepy as hell.

    What kid doesn't love a weird looking grown up. He makes it sooo much easier to root for the club. Just a lovely fellow.


    Glück auf Erwin!

    Maybe we get lucky and an old mining shaft opens up swallowing him.
     
  13. Alex_K

    Alex_K Member+

    Mar 23, 2002
    Braunschweig, Germany
    Club:
    Eintracht Braunschweig
    Nat'l Team:
    Bhutan
    Indeed. Dinosaurs just won't die out! That's why they make such great pets these days. I am off feeding my Diplodocus, guys, see ya later.
     
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  14. NUFCBayern

    NUFCBayern Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 9, 2004
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Point taken.

    Sarcasm aside, I know you know the "reasoning" behind the dinosaur.
     
  15. Alex_K

    Alex_K Member+

    Mar 23, 2002
    Braunschweig, Germany
    Club:
    Eintracht Braunschweig
    Nat'l Team:
    Bhutan
    Yeah, I just think a dinosaur was not the wisest choice for a club that has been mostly in a long and slow decline for the past 3 decades. It's not so much your post but their reasoning I tend to find unintenionally amusing.
     
  16. NUFCBayern

    NUFCBayern Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 9, 2004
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Understood. Yes, unintentional irony is always good for a laugh. I wonder if they'll change their mascot when they inevitably are relegated (or maybe have a skeleton version of the current mascot).

    Also amusing that Arsenal has also been in decline recently...and their mascot is "Gunnersaurus."
     
  17. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hi, I will be visiting Frankfurt for work in May, and it looks like FSV Frankfurt 1899 are playing at home vs Bochum the day I arrive. I am assuming that it is no problem to just go to the ground and buy a ticket.

    It might be a little tight to get there in time for the 13:30 kickoff from the airport. The transport site says that it should be 45 minutes on the S-bahn and U-bahn, but do the trains run less often on Sundays?

    Just curious, but what would be the correct German way to pronounce the club name? The full name seems pretty long!

    If anyone has been to the ground or has any advice, I would appreciate it!

    Cheers,

    Tom
     
  18. Homa

    Homa Member

    Feb 4, 2008
    Aachen
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Sundays and holidays usually have a different schedule for public transport so you should at least check with the right weekday, better, yet, use the correct date.

    I'd say FSV oder FSV Frankfurt for the club name. Frankfurt itself doesn't work in Frankfurt obviously, besides Eintracht is the far bigger club hence probably the first thing anybody thinks about if you talk about a football club in the city.

    Just remember that the German V sounds differently than the English. The English one sounds like a German W and could lead to misunderstandings. The German one sounds like "foul" without the L (so "fou"). Use it and your pretty close.


    Can't say much about tickets or the stadium but it is pretty small, FSV plays a good season and Bochum is one of the bigger clubs in 2.Bundesliga.
     
  19. snahdog

    snahdog Member

    Mar 31, 2006
    Atlanta
    Or you could move your flight up a day and try to catch Mainz vs. Moenchengladbach in Mainz (close to Frankfurt, easily accessible with public transportation).
     
  20. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks for the tips, I appreciate it. So people would say it as "Eff-Ess-Fou Frankfurt"? Glad to hear they don't typically use the year as part of the name!

    I actually am moving my trip up by a day as it is. I'm going for work, and the bean counters said I can't leave on the Sunday night because the plane ticket is about 2.5 times more expensive! Since the Bundesliga 2 plays Sundays, I figured I could catch a game. Since I need to be in Nurnberg (don't even ask about flight connections), it is easier to take the train. There is also a direct flight from Boston to Munich, so I could go see either Regensburg or Aalen, which are between Munich and Nurnberg.
     
  21. snahdog

    snahdog Member

    Mar 31, 2006
    Atlanta
    1899=achtzehnhundert neunundneunzig

    You're on your own with the pronunciation :thumbsup:
     
  22. Homa

    Homa Member

    Feb 4, 2008
    Aachen
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Yes, you can omit the year in this case. I doubt anybody uses it in talking though it could be different with Hoffenheim because they are such an old fashioned and traditional club.....

    Aalen isn't really between Munich and Nürnberg that is a long detour.
     
  23. "Eisenfuß" Eilts

    Jul 1, 2005
    In the sun ;)
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    At FSV Frankfurt there it should not be a problem to get a ticket. Stadium capacity 10470, average attendance 5013. In comparison the other clubs in the league have an average of more than 15000 (attendances 2. BL).

    Cudos to their management to field a competitive side, not only this season but also the ones before.
    Don't expect something special there, but I am sure they will be happy about every support.

    ---
    I took a look at the schedule. Regensburg - Kaiserslautern is a very interesting match that day. Regensburg is currently in the relegation zone, while Kaiserslautern has good chances to get promoted. Since Kaiserslautern has a good fan support this could be a very exciting match, one the pitch and on the stands (atmosphere wise)
     
  24. Hobo

    Hobo Member+

    Apr 29, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    FSV is located in the Bornheim section of Frankfurt. I have a buddy who lives there, and it has some personality with cool restaurants and bars.
     
  25. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ah, that's easy... Unlike English, where you have words like Through, Cough, and Rough that should be prounounced the same but aren't, at least you can figure out German words, even if you don't know them. This would be "ACHT-sen-hun-dert NOYN-und-NOYN-zig" right? ;)

    Nice to see there will be at least a couple of options for games, and as a neutral, I'm not partial to a particular team, as long as it is a reasonably entertaining game. I'll always root for the home side, so it's a bonus if they win.

    You're right, Aalen is a bit of a detour. By car, it wouldn't be so bad, but the train connections are ridiculous, so that wouldn't be possible. Depending on where I fly in to, it looks like either FSV or Jahn Regensburg.

    Thanks for all the great advice!
     

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