The War on Voting

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by purojogo, Sep 2, 2011.

  1. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
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    Feb 16, 1999
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    BTW, I love the whole "You need ID to buy beer or cigarettes!!!!!" meme.

    Every high school and college student who knows a place where they're lax about carding knows that that ain't true.
     
  2. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
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    I can't recall ever showing an ID to use a credit card, either. But that won't stop Schapes, jr. From trotting out a GOP meme.
     
  3. dapip

    dapip Member+

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    Not to mention "controlled" substances...
     
  4. TheSlipperyOne

    TheSlipperyOne Member+

    Feb 29, 2000
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    None. If you need a good fake then just PM me.
     
  5. dapip

    dapip Member+

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  6. dapip

    dapip Member+

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  7. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    Around here, if you just moved here you show your old driver's license.

    If its your first, though, you show your birth certificate and tell them your mailing address. They take your word for it, since they are going to mail you the license.

    And pay The Man of course. Everybody gotta pay The Man.
     
  8. That Phat Hat

    That Phat Hat Member+

    Nov 14, 2002
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    You're shitting me. You don't have to have another photo ID to get an identifying document issued? That's just insane!





    The other response is, it's not all that difficult to commit a little fraud and steal someone else's ID and get a fake driver's license. Either way, the voter ID argument fails at the DMV.
     
  9. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    Well, I'm sure you could use a passport instead of a birth certificate-- but you can get one of those with just a birth certificate anyway, last I knew. If you pay The Man.

    In fact, now that I think of it I'm not sure you can't use your voter registration card too. I got that with my New York DL. Which I got with my birth certificate. (And paying The Man.)

    And I assumed your second sentence was what you were building up to in the first place-- I was just being your straight man...
     
  10. purojogo

    purojogo Member

    Sep 23, 2001
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    HOw awful a person do you have to be to try do do all this in order to prevent people from voting?!??!?Emergency rules ordered by himself as Secretary of State after Legislature basically ignored him due to lack of evidence? Last minute purge of voter rolls based on whom he considers suspect?!?!

    Iowa.... beware of this a-hole.....His name is Matt Schultz
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/ns/msnbc_tv-rachel_maddow_show/#49041279
     
  11. soccernutter

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    Aug 22, 2001
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    One of my students carried this around as a joke. Several fellow "educated" coworkers thought it was real.
     
  12. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
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    Related to Maddow's reference last night:

    http://cincinnati.com/blogs/politic...ty-voter-challenge-comes-up-empty/#more-16500

    I was wondering where that 730,000 number came from:

    "Project leaders have said that they have turned up 730,000 questionable registrations from among Ohio’s nearly 7.8 million registered voters. Roughly 68,000 are from Hamilton County, including 51,000 that project co-leader Mary Siegel has called “non-existent people” that may be false names submitted by individuals paid to register new voters.
    Hamilton County elections official have confirmed the 51,000 figure. But they say that the fact that no votes have been cast under those names since 2008 does not necessarily mean the registrations are phony, because people do register and then choose not to vote."

    So people registered to vote since 2008 but who haven't voted since then are non-existent people?

    http://www.lancastereaglegazette.co...trations-challenged-by-local-tea-party-leader

    Read all about it on the nutjob's website: http://www.ohiolibertycoalition.org/

    Here's Maddow's piece:

    http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2...-backed-group-challenging-voters-in-ohio?lite

    ********ers, each and every last one of them.
     
  13. That Phat Hat

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  14. That Phat Hat

    That Phat Hat Member+

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    Except the times you lied about how you can't get a bank account without a photo ID or that there isn't a not-insignificant percentage of people without government-issued photo ID. Quit lying, liar.
    So you support stupid laws that don't effectively prevent in-person voter fraud, while putting unreasonable hurdles on eligible voters. That's awfully ass backwards.

    Seriously, you haven't thought this through. Let's try harder. And a little reading.
    No, you stop giving me bullshit.
    It is a burden for those form whom getting photo ID is a burden.
     
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  15. Falc

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    No lie. You should become familiar with the Patriot Act and the federal regulations that enforce it.
     
  16. That Phat Hat

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    [​IMG]
     
  17. Dr. Wankler

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  18. That Phat Hat

    That Phat Hat Member+

    Nov 14, 2002
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    I don't think he knows how to post in threads he's not quoted in. But I wouldn't know since he's on ignore.
     
  19. Falc

    Falc Member+

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    Why do you continue to do that?
     
  20. soccernutter

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    I assume those are registered voters who do not have government issued IDs.
     
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  21. fatbastard

    fatbastard Member+

    Aug 1, 2003
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    fwiw, these are the Virginia rules, which I was just directed to:

     
  22. Crimen y Castigo

    May 18, 2004
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    Sarah Silverman -- like her or not, she nails it.

    Lots o' NSFW Swearin'
     
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  23. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
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    Big difference for Virginia is that they do not require a photo ID. One of the forms of ID that they are accepting is a voting registration card that they are mailing to every registered voter in the state prior to the election... So, as long as the mail address on their voter registration is correct, the person should get the voter registration card and be able to vote.
     
  24. Falc

    Falc Member+

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    So is that burdensome? Will it keep thousands from voting? Is it unreasonable?
     
  25. tomwilhelm

    tomwilhelm Member+

    Dec 14, 2005
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    If I can't use my NRA card, it's a clear violation of my Constitutional rights. Or something.
     

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