United States presidential election, 2008 [NSR]

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  1. TheAnswrto1984is1776

    Jan 21, 2012
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    Like I wrote in my last posts, Ron Paul was robbed in Maine and he is going to keep getting robbed because the establishment is scared of death of his ideas. The movement will continue and grow and whoever is in office besides Ron Paul will continue with the destruction of the republic and the movement will grow even more when we reach an economic collapse.
     
  2. hanzellmo

    hanzellmo Member

    Feb 25, 2007
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    Nice job slaying the same freedom you defend:rolleyes:
     
  3. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
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    Oct 17, 2005
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    There is a difference between fact and assertion and just because you can post a link to someone who supports your assertion doesn't make it a fact.

    That most people would dispute your assertions doesn't make them brainwashed, it means that the assertion is disputable and likely not a fact.

    When you sign up for an account here, which you've done lots and lots of times, you agree to terms of use and we have forum guidelines and norms stickied on the main board of this forum.

    I've never censored you and neither has any of the other mods during your current incarnation - I haven't deleted, edited or infracted a single post that was on topic. It was you who tried to censor another poster and that is precisely when I asked you to respect his right to post - and even then I didn't infract you because I was giving you a chance.

    Anyone who reads this thread will have plenty of examples of your trolling and taking the thread off topic and this tantrum is just the latest example.

    So final warning: discuss the election here, or start another thread about your conspiracy theory if you wish to continue to discuss it, but any further trolling here and your done.

    That's poor logic. Certain forms of redistristribution of wealth are elements of socialism, and very specific forms and mechanisms for doing so are recommended by communism - but not every form of wealth redistribution is socialist or communist. Certainly, nearly all capitalist democracies also practice some form of wealth redistribution.
     
  4. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
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    I kinda like it...
     
  5. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
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    I think thats about right. Bottom right is accurate.
     
  6. TheAnswrto1984is1776

    Jan 21, 2012
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    That is not poor logic, it is a fact. That is why the US constitution did not have one word about redistribution of wealth, income tax, democracy or any other form of socialism which enslaves the people. Any form of redistribution of wealth is socialism and thievery http://vitalsignsblog.blogspot.com/2010/03/redistribution-of-wealth-something-on.html and http://www.infowars.com/marxist-wealth-distribution-for-the-bankers/
     
  7. TheAnswrto1984is1776

    Jan 21, 2012
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    I am interested in knowing what Obama's platform is going to be. Is it the economy is better, no, its worse and unemployment is climbing. Is it I ended the wars, no, he actually created a new war with Lybia and wants to create two more with Iran and Syria. Is it I gave more freedoms to Americans, no, he signed NDAA and he wanted the clause to be able to apply to American citizens included in the law. Is it I cut down the national debt, no, the debt has skyrocketed and it is now greater than our GDP. I passed Healthcare reform to help people get medical help, no, it will further bankrupt our country, it is unconstitutional and it helps private insurers because they are the ones who wrote the law. In conclusion, the only hope Obama has is that Romney is the nominee and he can tell the people, vote for me, at least you know me :rolleyes:.
     
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  8. dapip

    dapip Member+

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  9. TheAnswrto1984is1776

    Jan 21, 2012
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    This is funny, but its kind of sad at the same time because you have no way to defend your unconstitutional hero but to resort to questioning the messenger and not the message. But please show me the facts which show that I am insane. Please show me Obama's platform unless it does not exist :rolleyes:.
     
  10. dapip

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  11. cruze711

    cruze711 Member

    Mar 31, 2009
    If you believe that our politicians actually work for us and do what best for us, then you are the real "conspiracy theorist". That's crazier than saying we never landed on the moon. I guess corruption just couldn't touch obama huh, I wish.
     
  12. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
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    Look cruze, I have no problem with a good conspiracy theory.. In fact I DO believe that there are plenty of reasons for powerful people to intrigue and to take away your rights as effectively has happened in the US during the last 30-40 years...

    Now, off course doesn't mean that I DO not believe in democracy. I think that ultimately the reforms needed will be pushed because people organizes and demand that from the government and the ruling class. It happened in 1789 in France, happened during the XIX century all over the place and happened in America several times during the past century, most impressive perhaps the Civil Rights movement of the 1960s...

    What I have a problem with is the total inconsistency and intolerance of Mr. Answer and to certain degree other that agree with his ideas.. The idea that people lived better in 1913 than at any point in the history of the US certainly is delusional and quoting a lunatic that hasn't found a conspiracy he didn't like as the main source, while calling his lunacy patriotism is naive at best... Wake, Alex Jones is no patriot, he is just a voice that found an audience and earns Millions of dollars a year to keep you distracted from the current issues and confused about the real history of the US.. Oh, yeah and he makes a hefty commission on Gold Sales from his advertisers...

    http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread755058/pg1


    If he was such a patriot and he was telling the truth, he wouldn't be on the air (he would not be allowed) and he'd be in some kind of militia..
     
  13. cruze711

    cruze711 Member

    Mar 31, 2009
    @ dapip
    my comment was more directed towards ryu, I know that you agree with much of what Answer and I say.(for some reason you still support Obama though???)

    You can't knock Alex for making money. I know Alex is over the top and I don't believe everything he says. But the reality is that he is right about alot of things, just you tube Alex jones predictions, and while your at it YouTube Ron Paul predictions. Plus Alex is friends/cool with people I really respect and support like Joe rogan, immortal technique, Jesse Ventura , and many more.
     
  14. TheAnswrto1984is1776

    Jan 21, 2012
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    WHo says he is not on a militia already? like I said you have no clue what the constitution says, anyone with a weapon is a member of the militia already, hellooo. He is on air because he has the freedom to do so. When did broadcasting a radio show become illegal? If they kill him it would only amplify his message because when you kill one Alex Jones ten more will pop up, that is how it works. We are going to take the country back whether you want to or not because the constitution states it is our right when the government stops working in our interests.
     
  15. TheAnswrto1984is1776

    Jan 21, 2012
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  16. dapip

    dapip Member+

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    Love it...
     
  17. cruze711

    cruze711 Member

    Mar 31, 2009
  18. dapip

    dapip Member+

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    Keeps getting beter..
    :p
     
  19. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
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    Excellent Article on Healthcare reform:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...ion-question/2012/02/22/gIQA2H68SR_story.html

    There was a time when Republicans knew employer-based health coverage was an outdated relic. In fact, that time was 2008, when John McCain made a transition to individually purchased coverage the centerpiece of his health plan in the campaign.

    In the end, McCain’s plan was fatally flawed for two reasons. First, he didn’t propose insurance market reforms that would enable people with preexisting conditions to be assured coverage as part of a larger pool. And second, McCain didn’t offer the subsidies that millions of poor workers would need to help buy such coverage. But the basic idea of moving past employer-provided care was spot on.

    Mitt Romney knows this but pretends not to in his impressively soulless quest for religious voters. Wouldn’t it have been refreshing if he or another GOP candidate had simply said, “Hey, we could avoid this whole contraception mess if we moved past employer-based health care?” Or if we gave employees of Catholic institutions who want access to contraception publicly funded vouchers they could use to buy policies at the new private insurance exchanges Obama’s health reform sets up?

    It’s a predictable pity, but a pity nonetheless, that the only reason these common-sense fixes can’t be mentioned by Republicans is that they would be an admission that Obama’s private health insurance exchanges are a step in the right direction — as were Romney’s.

    The real shame was that Obama didn’t steal and improve on McCain’s idea and push boldly beyond employer-based care in his own reform. Most people know how crazy the current system is — how it locks people into jobs they’d rather leave for fear of exposing their family to ruin from costly illness; how it hurts entrepreneurship as a result; and how it gives big companies (which can afford ample coverage) an unfair advantage in the war for talent over the newer, smaller firms that drive innovation and job creation.
     
  20. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
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    And another good one on why conservatives are failing....

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politic...ervative-chickens-come-home-to-roost-20120223

    Here at home, all liberals, gays, Hispanic immigrants, atheists, Hollywood actors and/or musicians with political opinions, members of the media, members of congress, TSA officials, animal-lovers, union workers, state employees with pensions, Occupiers and other assorted unorthodox types had already long ago been rolled into the enemies list.

    Given the continued troubles and the continued failure to return to good old American values, who else could possibly be to blame? Where else could they possibly point the finger?

    There was only one possible answer, and we're seeing it playing out in this race: At themselves! And I don’t mean they pointed the finger "at themselves" in the psychologically healthy, self-examining, self-doubting sort of way. Instead, I mean they pointed "at themselves" in the sense of, "There are traitors in our ranks. They must be ferreted out and destroyed!"

    This is the last stage in any paranoid illness. You start by suspecting that somebody out there is out to get you; in the end, you’re sure that even the people who love you the most under your own roof, your own doctors, your parents, your wife and your children, they’re in on the plot. To quote Matt Damon in the almost-underrated spy film The Good Shepherd, they became convinced that there’s "a stranger in the house."

    This is where the Republican Party is now. They’ve run out of foreign enemies to point fingers at. They’ve already maxed out the rhetoric against us orgiastic, anarchy-loving pansexual liberal terrorists. The only possible remaining explanation for their troubles is that their own leaders have failed them. There is a stranger in the house!


    Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politic...ens-come-home-to-roost-20120223#ixzz1nIvjVwQS
     
  21. TheAnswrto1984is1776

    Jan 21, 2012
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    Well, it looks like the Bilderbergs want Romney in and Obama out. Webster Tarpley predicted Ron Paul's betrayal and how he ran to help Romney get the nomination. It looks like its up to us patriots to take this country back because the system will never deliver true change

    Like Webster Tarpley says we patriots need to organize and get power in order to take back our republic instead of depending on puppet politicians to change the system. Here is Rand Paul endorsing Romney, what a joke:
     
  22. Alonso#13

    Alonso#13 Member

    Feb 21, 2007
    New York City
    The first step to freedom is realizing that the Democratic Left and the Republican Right are nothing more than two heads of the same corrupt central banking elite giving the masses the illusion of a choice. Whether Romney,Paul,Obama, Yomama get elected it all comes down to who controls and distributes the money.

     
  23. TheAnswrto1984is1776

    Jan 21, 2012
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    Completely agree and that is why we have to restore the constitutional republic where WE THE PEOPLE have the power and we do not depend on any politician to save us. The federal reserve is the cancer of this country and until we end it things are only going to get worse. Like Tarpley said we need to get in positions of power in order to change things like getting REAL constitutionalists into power that represent us and not the bankers.
     
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  24. Alonso#13

    Alonso#13 Member

    Feb 21, 2007
    New York City
    Thats right and its up to everybody to speak up about this injustice... people have been indoctrinated and "brainwashed"for way to long to realize that there is a small group of people that have this much control and wealth.
     
  25. TheAnswrto1984is1776

    Jan 21, 2012
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    Dont say that, according to Dapip and the moderator Obama runs everything and he only wants the best for us Americans :rolleyes:. The Bilderbergers want Romney in because Obama is compromised and because Obama is not looting the country fast enough because of the republican opposition in Congress. Now they are going to replace pepsi for coca cola in order to put the so called right wing into sleep and have their war with Iran and Syria. People are waking up very quickly and I do not think this switch is going to work just like putting Obama in power worked because too many people know the agenda of the elite.
     

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