2011 Rugby World Cup [R]

Discussion in 'Rugby & Aussie Rules' started by yankee_rob, Jun 18, 2010.

  1. yankee_rob

    yankee_rob Member

    Aug 1, 2006
    London, England
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 2011 & 2015 Rugby World Cups to be Broadcast on NBC/Universal Sports

    Good job! The irish finally played up to their potential. With their talent and experience could they be the dark horse of the tournament?
     
  2. Dyvel

    Dyvel Member+

    Jul 24, 1999
    The dog end of a day gone by
    Club:
    Leeds United AFC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    Re: 2011 & 2015 Rugby World Cups to be Broadcast on NBC/Universal Sports

    I don't know enough about rugby to give an answer but I'd like to know how a 41 - 10 victory can be described as a failure.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/rugby_union/14965366.stm
     
  3. yankee_rob

    yankee_rob Member

    Aug 1, 2006
    London, England
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 2011 & 2015 Rugby World Cups to be Broadcast on NBC/Universal Sports

    The game was a little bit closer then the score indicated....georgia's forwards also played well and they missed over 5 penalty kicks. Also, england didn't play well together and lacked a lot of intensity. Having said that 41 to 10 is 41 to 10 and georgia are a good up and coming side.
     
  4. DoctorJones24

    DoctorJones24 Member

    Aug 26, 1999
    OH
    Re: 2011 & 2015 Rugby World Cups to be Broadcast on NBC/Universal Sports

    I notice that most of the Eagles are still affiliated with (what I assume are) amateur clubs in the states. I'm kinda surprised at that. I would have thought by now that we'd have a few guys playing professionally overseas. Are there not as many lower divisions in rugby, so maybe fewer opportunities to make decent wages? Are we just that far behind?
     
  5. Colm

    Colm Member

    Aug 17, 2004
    UK
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Re: 2011 & 2015 Rugby World Cups to be Broadcast on NBC/Universal Sports

    Ireland's win against Australia really has the world cup turned upside down. It looks like now that South Africa (who were very impressive against Fiji) will play Australia in the QF (aslong as Ireland don't mess up against Italy)

    That would mean that the big three SH teams will be on the same side of the draw in the knockout stages.

    as of right now Italy are 17-0 up against Russia with 18mins gone.
     
  6. Colm

    Colm Member

    Aug 17, 2004
    UK
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Re: 2011 & 2015 Rugby World Cups to be Broadcast on NBC/Universal Sports

    Italy 38-7 Russia

    Russia got there first try in world cup history, nice for them.

    Though there defence is awful, and are useless at the scrum and Italy achieved the Bonus point after 25 mins and Italy have scored 6 tries in the first half.
     
  7. Colm

    Colm Member

    Aug 17, 2004
    UK
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Re: 2011 & 2015 Rugby World Cups to be Broadcast on NBC/Universal Sports

    Italy 53-17 Russia

    better preformance from Russia in the 2nd half but to be honest it could only get better. 2 tries for Russia in the 2nd half and three in total. Italy with 8 tries in this game.

    Will be interesting to see how many points Ireland or Australia put past Russia.
     
  8. el-capitano

    el-capitano Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 30, 2005
    Sydney
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Re: 2011 & 2015 Rugby World Cups to be Broadcast on NBC/Universal Sports

    They played well and stuck to their plan:

    http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...e-way-to-victory/story-fn8ti7yn-1226142938214
     
  9. Colm

    Colm Member

    Aug 17, 2004
    UK
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    South Africa 87-0 Namibia

    Biggest scoreline win of the world cup so far and will probably stay that way

    It's also South Africas biggest win in world cup history

    So easy for them.
     
  10. Flyin Ryan

    Flyin Ryan Member

    May 13, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 2011 & 2015 Rugby World Cups to be Broadcast on NBC/Universal Sports

    There's 38 top flight rugby clubs in Europe. Of those some clubs prioritize domestic players over international players so the international player has to be that much better to get playing time (Ireland, Wales, Scotland), and to play in Britain I think they only give you a work visa if you don't have British parentage once you've had 10 international caps.

    South Africa, New Zealand, and Australia are similar to the Irish/Welsh/Scottish system.

    The French and English are most open to bringing in foreigners and giving them playing time. We have a decent number of guys in each country.
     
  11. Flyin Ryan

    Flyin Ryan Member

    May 13, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    the U.S. are running out the B team against the Aussies so maybe not
     
  12. Master O

    Master O Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So we may see Australia get a century against the US? Ouch :(
     
  13. el-capitano

    el-capitano Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 30, 2005
    Sydney
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    We are playing some of our bench players ourselves, who might be trying to make a point after the Ireland debacle.
     
  14. yankee_rob

    yankee_rob Member

    Aug 1, 2006
    London, England
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We are playing well so far....fingers crossed!
     
  15. yankee_rob

    yankee_rob Member

    Aug 1, 2006
    London, England
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We are playing with a lot of heart, but they are just to much for us.
     
  16. yankee_rob

    yankee_rob Member

    Aug 1, 2006
    London, England
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You were not far off on the score.
     
  17. yankee_rob

    yankee_rob Member

    Aug 1, 2006
    London, England
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hope the Aussie player is ok. I thought it was only NFL players that tried to tackle with their head.
     
  18. Master O

    Master O Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Since you brought up the NFL, do you think there would be any current NFLers who would make good ruggers?
     
  19. yankee_rob

    yankee_rob Member

    Aug 1, 2006
    London, England
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It depends if you are talking 7s or 15s? 7s is easier to pickup, but requires a lot more speed. I think most NFL players have the talent to be top rugger, but they lack the rugby skills and understanding of the game that you develop at an early age.

    To answer your question I would love to see Michael Vick give 7s a try.
     
  20. Master O

    Master O Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am talking about in both forms.

    67 is far enough away from 100, so at least I got a half-century prediction right.
     
  21. Dyvel

    Dyvel Member+

    Jul 24, 1999
    The dog end of a day gone by
    Club:
    Leeds United AFC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    I saw a program on the Travel Channel where an NFL player, whose name escapes me, travelled around the world trying different sports. He did well with rugby but lacked the stamina to play a whole game.
     
  22. yankee_rob

    yankee_rob Member

    Aug 1, 2006
    London, England
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Cam Newton.
     
  23. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    That's more like it! Argentina 13-Scotland 12.

    Best game of the cup so far, a brawl in the pouring rain. We were a bit lucky, I have to admit. Respect to Scotland.
     
  24. el-capitano

    el-capitano Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 30, 2005
    Sydney
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    If we could've learnt how to kick conversions you could've added another 10. :eek:
     
  25. CBusCrew12

    CBusCrew12 Member

    Apr 19, 2005
    Ohio, USA
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I read an article not long ago where an All Blacks trainer talked about NFL vs Rugby and where the athletes compare. Basically he said that while American-Football athletes don't train for stamina like rugby athletes do, the Caucasian vs Polynesian vs African American genetics puts the Polynesians at a disadvantage for size/speed combination. While Polynesians can be quite large and strong, it's not as common to have the combo come with great speed, like you see with a lot of AA NFL players. Caucasians being the "tweeners".

    He said that New Zealand is really working hard to make their athletes bigger and faster, and compared the average size/strength/speed ratio to players from 20 years ago and said it really isn't close on average. He said because of their training programs, players like Sonny Bill Williams, who are 6'3" 235lbs with ~4.4 speed in American terms, are going to become more commonplace in the future, for the All Blacks at least.

    He also said some obvious things, such as players the size of offensive lineman, that are upwards of 300lbs, would never be seen in rugby.

    Basically, his conclusion was that African Americans incredible athletes that would certainly do well in rugby, while, currently, the average rugby athlete might find it difficult in the NFL because they may lack the necessary size/speed/strength combination.


    Personally, I think he put too much emphasis on speed in the NFL. There are a lot of really good players that aren't clocking 4.4s and under. A lot of rugby players would fit in quite well. I think the transition would be easier from rugby to football than the reverse.
     

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