C.A. San Lorenzo de Almagro - 1946 - Argentina Titles: Argentina - Domestic Championship 1946 Formation: ----------------- Blazina ----------------- ---------- J. Vanzini ----Basso ------------ A. Zubieta ------ S. Grecco ------ Colombo ---------- A. Farro -- R. Martino ----------- --- Imbellone ---- R. Pontoni ---- E. Silva --- Stars: Rinaldo Martino - LIF or "entreala izquierdo" René Pontoni - CF or "centrodelantero" Armando Farro - RIF or "entreala izquierdo" Ángel Zubieta - RH or "half derecho" Oscar Basso - CB or "back central" More info: http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Terceto_de_Oro#Plantel http://www.somoscuervos.com.ar/clarin_recordo_al_san_lorenzo_de_1946-itemap-1-2562-1.htm http://www.museodesanlorenzo.com.ar/contenido/jugadores/torneos/1941/1946/Tabla posiciones.htm http://www.museodesanlorenzo.com.ar/contenido/jugadores/torneos/1941/1946/gira/Gira.htm
Club Nacional de Football - 1939/1943 - Uruguay "El Quinquenio de Oro." Titles: Uruguay - Domestic Championship: 5x - 39/40/41/42/43 Honor Cup: 5x - 39/40/41/42/43 Río de la Plata Cup: 2x - 40/42 Best Formation: ---------------------- Aníbal Paz ------------------ Gk ------------ Héctor Romero - Raúl Pini -------------- CBs Schubert Gambetta -- Rodolfo Pini -- Eugenio Galvalisi HVs ----------- Aníbal Ciocca ----- Roberto Porta ------- IFs Luis Ernesto Castro -- Atilio García -- Bibiano Zapirain WGs CF Stars: All the offensive line. L.E. Castro , A. Ciocca, A.Garcia, R. Porta and Zapirain. One of the best teams ever. More info: http://www.nacionaldigital.com/historia/Hechos/el_quinquenio_de_oro.htm http://www.futbolshow.s5.com/los12.htm http://www.nacional.com.uy/mvdcms/uc_34_1.html
Club Atlético Peñarol - 1949 - Uruguay "La Maquina del 49." Titles: Uruguay - Domestic Championship: 1x - 1949 Honor Cup: 1x - 1949 Torneo Competencia: 1x - 1949 Basic Formation: ----------------- R. Máspoli ------------------- GK ------------- E. Hugo --- S. Possamai ---------- CBs J.C. Gonzáles --- O. Jacinto Varela --- W. Ortuño HVs -------- J.E. Hohberg ------ J.A. Schiaffino ----- IFs -- A. Ghiggia ------- O. Míguez ------- E. Vidal - WGs CF Stars: A. Ghiggia J.A. Schiaffino O. Jacinto Varela O. Míguez J.E. Hohberg R. Máspoli More info: http://www.amarilloynegro.com.uy/historia/maquina_49.php http://www.somospenarol.com/data/contenido.php?idCont=30&titulo=la-historia-1891-1949 http://zonacharrua.com/futbol/edicion3/maquina.html
Nice teams Nacional was arguably the best SA team at early 40s. I would add as stars: Anibal Paz & Schubert Gambetta:
C. R. Vasco da Gama - 1944/1952 - Brazil "Expresso da Vitória." Titles: Carioca - RJ State Championship: 5x - 45/47/49/50/52 Municipal Tourney - RJ City: 4x - 44/45/46/47 Relâmpago Tourney: 2x - 44-46 Início Tourney: 3x - 44/45/48 South-American Champions Championship: 1x - 1948 Formations: 1944: Barcheta Sampaio - Rafanelli Berascochea - Dino - Argemiro Djalma - Lelé - Isaías - Ademir - Chico 1945: Rodrigues Augusto - Rafanelli Berascochea - Eli - Argemiro Djalma - Lelé - Isaías - Jair - Chico 1946: Barcheta Augusto - Rafanelli (Sampaio) Eli - Danilo - Jorge Djalma - Lelé - Isaías - Jair - Chico 1947: Barbosa Augusto -Rafanelli Eli - Danilo - Jorge Djalma - Maneca - Dimas - Lelé - Chico. 1948: Barbosa Augusto - Wilson Eli - Danilo - Jorge Djalma - Maneca - Friaça - Ademir - Chico 1949: Barbosa Augusto - Sampaio Eli - Danilo - Alfredo Nestor - Ademir - Heleno - Maneca - Mário 1950: Barbosa Augusto - Laerte Eli - Danilo - Jorge Alfredo - Ipojucan - Ademir - Maneca - Dejair 1951: Barbosa Augusto - Clarel Eli - Danilo - Jorge Tesourinha - Ipojucan - Ademir - Maneca - Friaça 1952: Barbosa Augusto - Haroldo Eli - Danilo - Jorge Sabará - Maneca - Ademir - Ipojucan - Chico Stars: Lelé, Chico, Ademir de Menezes, Jair da Rosa Pinto, Barbosa, Augusto, Eli, Danilo Alvim, Jorge, Friaça, Maneca, Ipojucan and Tesourinha. More info: http://www.netvasco.com.br/mauroprais/vasco/histor3.html#formacao http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expresso_da_Vitória http://www.netvasco.com.br/mauroprais/vasco/equipes.html http://www.netvasco.com.br/mauroprais/vasco/titulos.html http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campeonato_Sul-Americano_de_Campeões
Club Estudiantes de la Plata - 1928/1933 - Argentina "Los Profesores." Titles: None Argentina - Domestic Championship: 3rd place - 1928 (Amateur Era) 2nd place - 1930 (Amateur Era) 3rd place - 1931 Best Formation: ----------------- E. Scandone ------------------- GK ------------- A. Nery --- R. Rodríguez ---------- CBs A. Viola --------- U. Uslenghi ---- F. Pérez Escalá HVs ---------- A. Scopelli ------ M. Ferreira --------- IFs -- M. Lauri ------- A. Zozaya ------- E. Guaita - WGs CF Stars: The offensive line - Miguel Angel Lauri, Alejandro Scopelli, Alberto Zozaya, Manuel Ferreira and Enrique Guaita. Sources: http://martinestevez.blogspot.com/2008/01/blog-post.html http://edant.clarin.com/diario/2002/03/16/d-01601.htm http://www.taringa.net/posts/info/1115756/La-Catedra-de-Futbol-_Equot_los-profesoresEquot_.html http://cartasesfericas.wordpress.com/2009/10/25/los-profesores/
Valencia C.F. - 1940/1949 - Spain "La Delantera Eléctrica." Titles: Spain - Domestic Championship: Champion: 3x - 42/44/47 2nd place: 2x - 48/49 Copa del Generalísimo - Spanish Cup: Champion: 2x - 41/49 2nd place: 3x - 44/45/46 Best Formation: ---------------- I. Eizaguirre -------------- GK ---------- Álvaro P. ---- J. Ramón --------- CBs H. Ortúzar ------ C. Iturraspe ----- S. Lecue HVs --------- Amadeo I. ---- V. Asensi ---------- IFs ------ Epi F. ----- Mundo S. ---- G. Gorostiza WGs CF Stars: I. Eizaguirre J. Ramón And, the offensive line: Epi, Amadeo, Mundo, Asensi and Gorostiza. Sources: http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delantera_eléctrica http://www.ciberche.net/historia/la-historia-del-valencia/los-anos-40 http://blog.superdeporte.es/elvalen...lenciaenelrecuerdo/category/decada-de-los-40/ http://www.osclassicos.com/1999/03/o-valencia-cf-de-1948-49.html
Associação PORTUGUESA de Desportos - 1951/1955 - Brazil Titles: Rio-São Paulo Tournament: Champion: 2x - 52/55 State Championship - Invictos Cup: Champion: 1955 San Izidro Cup (Spain): Champion: 1951 International Tours: Fita Azul - 1951 Fita Azul - 1953 Fita Azul - 1954 Best Formations: 1952 Muca Nena - Noronha Djalma Santos - Brandãozinho - Ceci Renato - Pïnga Julinho - Nininho - Simão 1955 Cabeção Nena - Floriano Djalma Santos - Brandãozinho - Zinho Ipojucan - Edmur Julinho - Airton - Ortega Stars: Brandãozinho, Djalma Santos, Ipojucan, Julinho Botelho and Pïnga. Links: http://cacellain.com.br/blog/?p=11105 http://cacellain.com.br/blog/?p=11092 http://terceirotempo.bol.uol.com.br/noticia/A_Portuguesa_atraves_dos_tempos_Por_Mario_Lopomo-60534 http://almalusa.net/campeonato_rio_sao_paulo.html http://www.sitedalusa.com/competicao/58-torneio-rio-sao-paulo/365-torneio-rio-sao-paulo-1955.html http://www.sitedalusa.com/competica...torneio-rio-sao-paulo-1952-ficha-tecnica.html
Hi Maniac, Great posts and nice teams I'm curious about Portuguesa line-ups. Reading your sources seems like they played 2-3-5 in those times (mid 50s)
Thanks msioux! About Portuguesa's formation, you are right, it was a 2-3-5. Muca - GK (goleiro) Nena - Noronha - CB (zagueiros) Djalma Santos - Brandãozinho - Ceci - RH (lateral direito) CH (Volante) LH (lateral esquerdo) - famous "linha-média" (middle line) Renato - Pïnga - IFs (meias direita e esquerda) Julinho - Nininho - Simão - WGs and CF (pontas direita e esquerta and centro-avante) Just to clarify, their classification as english standards and how is seen in Brazil.
Alfredo Di Stefano was asked recently in the Spanish media to name the five greatest forwards of all time.His reply. MUÑOZ,PEDERNERA,MORENO,LABRUNA AND LOUSTEAU The forward line of La.Maquina.Di Stefano replaced Pedernera in 1946 and played with him in the Ballet Azul in the late forties.He has always maintained even in the Madrid press the greatest team he played in wasnt Madrids five European cups in a row team but La Maquina of River
That's a hard pill for some to swallow. This current era Barca team isn't even on the level of La Maquina.
It's hard to compare different eras but there's no doubt in my mind that La Maquina was a precursor of Guardiola's system, as was Hugary and later Ajax/Holland. What Pep did was return to the total football model that once was seen as the future of football but has proven so elusive in recent years. By all accounts, La Maquina controlled the ball and the tempo of the game in a similar manner as Barcelona does today. And I don't remember if I brought them up earlier in this long lasting thread, but speaking of Di Stefano, I have to mention another great team of the past, the Boca Juniors from the late 60's that he coached. Most common lineup: .......................Roma Suñé....Meléndez....Rogel....Marzolini .....Novello....Madurga....Medina ......Ponce...Angel Rojas...Peña The great Rojitas!!!
Since it was Portuguese immigrants that founded that team, were any of those players either Portuguese or 1st or 2nd generation luso-brasileiros? just curious
i think la maquina is well known by real football fans, but i agree with the barcelona of the late 50ies. to bad real madrid had an even greater team but just look at the names in that barca squad. luis suarez, czibor, kubala (very underrated player) and koscis (one of the greatest strikers ever) normally such a team would win at least 1 or 2 european cups in a few years time
American Samoa 2001... if goals is your thing.. this was your team.. conceded a total of 57 goals in 4 WCQ games, 31 against Australia. Great fun watching!
[It's odd that in the "officially stamped" UEFA sanctioned/passed-down version of the story that it always fails to get mentioned that Kocsis scored Honved's opening goal from a Puskas free-kick that was given after Ron Flowers had almost certainly been incorrectly called for handball...]
Mr. Roy, do you know examples of those "official" variants of the story and where they were published?
[I think that you mean "version" not "variant"; but I was actually there @ Molineux in '54. But, since you seem to want verification: The film blurs a bit in that version but it looks almost certain that Flowers was incorrectly called for handball according to the rules of the day in the incident that lead to Kocsis scoring from Puskas' free-kick. The newsreel presenter even comments on the fact that it was a controversial call against Wolves. LMK if you need me to give you the location in the video and I'll try and find a tad clearer re-play of the specific incident.]
[Ah, you're rather coming into the middle of a few conversations that "Greg" and I have been engaged in for a while (we talk via PM as well): I was more talking about how you never seem to hear/read about things like the handball call against Flowers when this match gets discussed...]
Thanks for clarification mr. Roy Yes, and do you know examples of those official 'UEFA approved' (quotation marks) versions?
The 1. FC Kaiserslautern team of the early fifties with Kohlmeyer, Liebrich, Eckel, Fritz Walter and Ottmar Walter. They created the core of the World Cup winning team of Germany 1954 and won 2 Championships and were runners up twice more at that time.
Some teams from Argentina. Boca Juniors 1931,34-35. The three great forwards Francisco Varallo, Delfín Benítez Cáceres and Roberto Cherro. River Plate 1936-37. The great offensive five: Carlos Peucelle, Renato Cesarini, Bernabé Ferreyra, José Manuel Moreno, Adolfo Pedernera (later one of the greatest centerforwards). Bernabé scored 219 goals in 198 games and had to retire at the age of 30 because of the hits he took in his legs. Independiente 1938-39. On of the most offensive teams in Argentine history. Maril, De la Mata, Erico, Sastre and Zorrilla were the forwards. The great Paraguayan Arsenio Pastor Erico was the top scorer several times. One year he scored 47 goals in 34 games. River Plate 1952-53 and 1955-57 won five championships in six years. GK: Amadeo Carrizo (all years) RB: Oscar Mantegari (all years) CB: Alfredo Pérez (all years) LB: Lidoro Soria (1952-53)/Federico Vairo (1955-57) RM: Julio Venini (1952-53 and 55)/Néstor Rossi (1955-57) LM: Héctor Ferrari(1952-53)/Pascasio Sola (1953,55-57)/Juan Urriolabeitía (1957) RW: Santiago Vernazza (1952-53,55-56)/Héctor De Bourgoing (1957) RIF: Eliseo Prado (all years)/Enrique Omar Sívori (1955-56) CF: Walter Gómez (1952-53,55)/Norberto Menéndez (1955-57) LIF: Ángel Labruna (all years) LW: Félix Loustau (all years mainly 1952-52,55)/Roberto Zárate (mainly 1956-57).