[R] The 2009 Playoff Race – Magic Numbers, Tragic Numbers & Other Assorted Obfuscation [R]

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  1. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: The 2009 Playoff Race – Magic Numbers, Tragic Numbers & Other Assorted Obfuscation

    I agree, it's getting close to 9 for 8 instead of 11.

    But TFC and RSL are still in it, and KC is stubbornly hanging on, and in a decent vein of form.

    My rankings, in terms of chances to make the playoffs.

    1. Crew (can clinch under some scenarios next week). Tough schedule w/ CCL also.
    2. Houston. 2/3 at home, 1 vs. KC. 46 is good enough.
    3. Chivas. 6 games left, 4 at home, including NY, KC, and SJ.
    4. LA. Looking good, but tough schedule: @Crew, Fire, @Hou, SJ. The last on helps.
    5. Fire. Would be higher, but home form is so poor. Still should beat TFC next week.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    I think the above five teams are looking very good to make it, based on their quality, their point totals, and their schedules, or some combination of the three.

    Next two are looking good, but have a lot of games on the road, which means a struggle is possible.

    6. Colorado. Schedule looks easy, but @KC suddenly not a gimmie, and don't want to have get points @RSL in the finale.

    7. Seattle. Looking good on points. 3/4 on road: @NE, @Crew, @KC. FCD = security.

    From there, it's a battle, with DC and NE in better shape than TFC and RSL.
     
  2. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Re: The 2009 Playoff Race – Magic Numbers, Tragic Numbers & Other Assorted Obfuscation

    Way to fall flat, Colorado.
    Code:
    [B][U]         GP  GR W   D   L   PTS PPG   PRJ MPP M#  T#  SSE#[/u]
    01  CMB  25  5  11  10  04  43  1.72  52  58  06  23  16
    02  HOU  27  3  12  07  08  43  1.59  48  52  06  17  10
    03  LAG  26  4  10  11  05  41  1.58  47  53  08  18  11
    04  CHI  26  4  10  10  06  40  1.54  46  52  09  17  10
    05  SEA  26  4  09  11  06  38  1.46  44  50  11  15  08
    06  COL  26  4  10  08  08  38  1.46  44  50  11  15  08
    07  CDC  24  6  11  04  09  37  1.54  46  55  12  20  13
    08  DCU  26  4  08  12  06  36  1.38  42  48  13  13  06
    ----------------------------------------------------------
    09  NER  24  6  09  07  08  34  1.42  43  52  15  17  10
    10  RSL  26  4  09  07  10  34  1.31  39  46  15  11  04
    11  TFC  26  4  09  07  10  34  1.31  39  46  15  11  04
    12  KCW  25  5  08  06  11  30  1.20  36  45  19  10  03
    13  FCD  25  5  07  06  12  27  1.08  32  42  22  07  00
    14  SJE  24  6  05  07  12  22  0.92  28  40  27  05  -02
    [COLOR="SlateGray"]15  NYR  26  4  04  05  17  17  0.65  20  29  32  -06  -13[/COLOR]
    
    GP = Games Played | GR = Games Remaining | PPG = Points Per Game
    PRJ = Projected = PTS + (GR x PPG)
    MPP = Max Points Possible = PTS + (3 x GR)
    M# = Magic Number = (9th Highest MPP) – PTS + 1
    T# = Tragic Number = MPP – (8th Highest PTS) + 1
    SSE# = SS Elimination Number = MPP - (1st Place PTS) + 1 
    
    - Sorted by PTS, then fewest GP.
    - Teams in [COLOR="SlateGray"]gray[/COLOR] have been eliminated from the playoffs.[/B]
    Code:
    [B][U]Pace: Deviation from 3 at home, 1 on the road[/U]
    
    [U]         GP  PTS HG  AG  HW HD HL AW AD AL PCE[/U]
    01  CMB  25  43  12  13  8  4  0  3  6  4  -06
    02  CDC  24  37  11  13  8  1  2  3  3  7  -09
    03  HOU  27  43  13  14  8  4  1  4  3  7  -10
    04  LAG  26  41  13  13  5  4  4  5  7  1  -11
    05  CHI  26  40  13  13  4  5  4  6  5  2  -12
    06  NER  24  34  12  12  6  3  3  3  4  5  -14
    07  DCU  26  36  12  14  6  5  1  2  7  5  -14
    08  COL  26  38  14  12  8  4  2  2  4  6  -16
    09  SEA  26  38  14  12  6  6  2  3  5  4  -16
    10  RSL  26  34  13  13  7  5  1  2  2  9  -18
    11  TFC  26  34  13  13  7  3  3  2  4  7  -18
    12  KCW  25  30  12  13  4  3  5  4  3  6  -19
    13  FCD  25  27  12  13  5  4  3  2  2  9  -22
    14  SJE  24  22  13  11  5  4  4  0  3  8  -28
    15  NYR  26  17  14  12  4  4  6  0  1  11 -37
    
    Sorted by PCE, then fewest GP.[/B]
    
    Code:
    [B][U]Remaining League Schedule[/U]
    
    CDC: NYR, @DCU, KCW, SJE, @CHI, HOU
    CHI: TFC, @LAG, @NER, CDC
    CMB: LAG, SEA, @NER, @DCE, NER
    COL: @KCW, NER, @FCD, @RSL
    DCU: SJE, CDC, CMB, @KCW
    FCD: RSL, NER, @SJE, COL, @SEA
    HOU: KCW, LAG, @CDC
    KCW: COL, @HOU, @CDC, SEA, DCU
    LAG: @CMB, CHI, @HOU, SJE
    NER: SEA, @FCD, @COL, CMB, CHI, @CMB
    NYR: @CDC, @SJE, @RSL, TFC
    RSL: @FCD, NYR, @TFC, COL
    SEA: @NER, @CMB, @KCW, FCD
    SJE: @DCU, NYR, FCD, @TOR, CDC, LAG
    TFC: @CHI, SJE, RSL, @NYR[/B]
    
     
  3. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Re: The 2009 Playoff Race – Magic Numbers, Tragic Numbers & Other Assorted Obfuscation

    Code:
    [B][U]In Brief[/U]
    
    - TFC and RSL are fading from contention.
    - NER jumped over DCU for the 8th spot.
    - CMB increased its grip on the SS.
    - SEA and COL look more vulnerable.
    - Now DCU really needs to win.[/B]
    Code:
    [B][U]         GP  GR W   D   L   PTS PPG   PRJ MPP M#  T#  SSE#[/u]
    01  CMB  26  4  12  10  04  46  1.77  53  58  02  22  13
    02  HOU  27  3  12  07  08  43  1.59  48  52  05  16  07
    03  CHI  27  3  10  11  06  41  1.52  46  50  07  14  05
    04  LAG  27  3  10  11  06  41  1.52  46  50  07  14  05
    05  COL  27  3  10  09  08  39  1.44  43  48  09  12  03
    06  CDC  25  5  11  05  09  38  1.52  46  53  10  17  08
    07  SEA  27  3  09  11  07  38  1.41  42  47  10  11  02
    08  NER  25  5  10  07  08  37  1.48  44  52  11  16  07
    ----------------------------------------------------------
    09  DCU  26  4  08  12  06  36  1.38  42  48  12  12  03
    10  TFC  27  3  09  08  10  35  1.30  39  44  13  08  -01
    11  RSL  27  3  09  07  11  34  1.26  38  43  14  07  -02
    12  KCW  26  4  08  07  11  31  1.19  36  43  17  07  -02
    13  FCD  26  4  08  06  12  30  1.15  35  42  18  06  -03
    14  SJE  24  6  05  07  12  22  0.92  28  40  26  04  -05
    [COLOR="SlateGray"]15  NYR  27  3  04  06  17  18  0.67  20  27  30  -09 -18[/COLOR]
    
    GP = Games Played | GR = Games Remaining | PPG = Points Per Game
    PRJ = Projected = PTS + (GR x PPG)
    MPP = Max Points Possible = PTS + (3 x GR)
    M# = Magic Number = (9th Highest MPP) – PTS + 1
    T# = Tragic Number = MPP – (8th Highest PTS) + 1
    SSE# = SS Elimination Number = MPP - (1st Place PTS) + 1 
    
    - Sorted by PTS, then fewest GP.
    - Teams in [COLOR="SlateGray"]gray[/COLOR] have been eliminated from the playoffs.[/B]
    Code:
    [B][U]Pace: Deviation from 3 at home, 1 on the road[/U]
    
    [U]         GP  PTS HG  AG  HW HD HL AW AD AL PCE[/U]
    01  CMB  26  46  13  13  9  4  0  3  6  4  -06
    02  HOU  27  43  13  14  8  4  1  4  3  7  -10
    03  CDC  25  38  12  13  8  2  2  3  3  7  -11
    04  LAG  27  41  13  14  5  4  4  5  7  2  -12
    05  NER  25  37  13  12  7  3  3  3  4  5  -14
    06  DCU  26  36  12  14  6  5  1  2  7  5  -14
    07  CHI  27  41  14  13  4  6  4  6  5  2  -14
    08  COL  27  39  14  13  8  4  2  2  5  6  -16
    09  SEA  27  38  14  13  6  6  2  3  5  5  -17
    10  TFC  27  35  13  14  7  3  3  2  5  7  -18
    11  RSL  27  34  13  14  7  5  1  2  2  10 -19
    12  KCW  26  31  13  13  4  4  5  4  3  6  -21
    13  FCD  26  30  13  13  6  4  3  2  2  9  -22
    14  SJE  24  22  13  11  5  4  4  0  3  8  -28
    15  NYR  27  18  14  13  4  4  6  0  2  11 -37
    
    Sorted by PCE, then fewest GP.[/B]
    
    Code:
    [B][U]Remaining League Schedule[/U]
    
    CDC: @DCU, KCW, SJE, @CHI, HOU
    CHI: @LAG, @NER, CDC
    CMB: SEA, @NER, @DCE, NER
    COL: NER, @FCD, @RSL
    DCU: SJE, CDC, CMB, @KCW
    FCD: NER, @SJE, COL, @SEA
    HOU: KCW, LAG, @CDC
    KCW: @HOU, @CDC, SEA, DCU
    LAG: CHI, @HOU, SJE
    NER: @FCD, @COL, CMB, CHI, @CMB
    NYR: @SJE, @RSL, TFC
    RSL: NYR, @TFC, COL
    SEA: @CMB, @KCW, FCD
    SJE: @DCU, NYR, FCD, @TOR, CDC, LAG
    TFC: SJE, RSL, @NYR[/B]
     
  4. Eliezar

    Eliezar Member+

    Jan 27, 2002
    Houston
    Club:
    12 de Octubre
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: The 2009 Playoff Race – Magic Numbers, Tragic Numbers & Other Assorted Obfuscation

    I'm pretty sure at one point last year there was a 3 games played difference between Liverpool and Man U that lasted quite awhile. So perhaps we can go bash the EPL for being Mickey Mouse.
     
  5. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Olympia
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Re: The 2009 Playoff Race – Magic Numbers, Tragic Numbers & Other Assorted Obfuscation

    If San Jose loses to DC United on Sunday, they will be officially eliminated. San Jose would remain on 22, while DC United would have 39 - climbing back into the top 8 and knocking New England with 37 points into 9th place. The most points San Jose could finish with would be 37, eliminating them from the playoffs.
     
  6. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Re: The 2009 Playoff Race – Magic Numbers, Tragic Numbers & Other Assorted Obfuscation

    Code:
    [B][U]In Brief[/U]
    
    - The old question returns: How screwed is DCU? Quite screwed. 
    - With DCU's loss, only 7 teams can catch CMB, meaning they're 
      now officially in the playoffs.
    - San Jose: spoiling playoff hopes and still not officially dead.[/B]
    Code:
    [B][U]         GP  GR W   D   L   PTS PPG   PRJ MPP M#  T#  SSE#[/u]
    [COLOR="DarkBlue"]01  CMB  26  4  12  10  04  46  1.77  53  58  00  22  13[/COLOR]
    02  HOU  27  3  12  07  08  43  1.59  48  52  03  16  07
    03  CHI  27  3  10  11  06  41  1.52  46  50  05  14  05
    04  LAG  27  3  10  11  06  41  1.52  46  50  05  14  05
    05  COL  27  3  10  09  08  39  1.44  43  48  07  12  03
    06  CDC  25  5  11  05  09  38  1.52  46  53  08  17  08
    07  SEA  27  3  09  11  07  38  1.41  42  47  08  11  02
    08  NER  25  5  10  07  08  37  1.48  44  52  09  16  07
    ----------------------------------------------------------
    09  DCU  27  3  08  12  07  36  1.33  40  45  10  09  00
    10  TFC  27  3  09  08  10  35  1.30  39  44  11  08  -01
    11  RSL  27  3  09  07  11  34  1.26  38  43  12  07  -02
    12  KCW  26  4  08  07  11  31  1.19  36  43  15  07  -02
    13  FCD  26  4  08  06  12  30  1.15  35  42  16  06  -03
    14  SJE  25  5  06  07  12  25  1.00  30  40  21  04  -05
    [COLOR="SlateGray"]15  NYR  27  3  04  06  17  18  0.67  20  27  28  -09 -18[/COLOR]
    
    GP = Games Played | GR = Games Remaining | PPG = Points Per Game
    PRJ = Projected = PTS + (GR x PPG)
    MPP = Max Points Possible = PTS + (3 x GR)
    M# = Magic Number = (9th Highest MPP) – PTS + 1
    T# = Tragic Number = MPP – (8th Highest PTS) + 1
    SSE# = SS Elimination Number = MPP - (1st Place PTS) + 1 
    
    - Sorted by PTS, then fewest GP.
    - Teams in [COLOR="SlateGray"]gray[/COLOR] have been eliminated from the playoffs.
    - Teams in [COLOR="DarkBlue"]blue[/COLOR] have clinched a playoff spot.[/B]
    Code:
    [B][U]Pace: Deviation from 3 at home, 1 on the road[/U]
    
    [U]         GP  PTS HG  AG  HW HD HL AW AD AL PCE[/U]
    01  CMB  26  46  13  13  9  4  0  3  6  4  -06
    02  HOU  27  43  13  14  8  4  1  4  3  7  -10
    03  CDC  25  38  12  13  8  2  2  3  3  7  -11
    04  LAG  27  41  13  14  5  4  4  5  7  2  -12
    05  NER  25  37  13  12  7  3  3  3  4  5  -14
    06  CHI  27  41  14  13  4  6  4  6  5  2  -14
    07  COL  27  39  14  13  8  4  2  2  5  6  -16
    08  SEA  27  38  14  13  6  6  2  3  5  5  -17
    09  DCU  27  36  13  14  6  5  2  2  7  5  -17
    10  TFC  27  35  13  14  7  3  3  2  5  7  -18
    11  RSL  27  34  13  14  7  5  1  2  2  10 -19
    12  KCW  26  31  13  13  4  4  5  4  3  6  -21
    13  FCD  26  30  13  13  6  4  3  2  2  9  -22
    14  SJE  25  25  13  12  5  4  4  1  3  8  -26
    15  NYR  27  18  14  13  4  4  6  0  2  11 -37
    
    Sorted by PCE, then fewest GP, then PTS.[/B]
    
    Code:
    [B][U]Remaining League Schedule[/U]
    
    CDC: @DCU, KCW, SJE, @CHI, HOU
    CHI: @LAG, @NER, CDC
    CMB: SEA, @NER, @DCE, NER
    COL: NER, @FCD, @RSL
    DCU: CDC, CMB, @KCW
    FCD: NER, @SJE, COL, @SEA
    HOU: KCW, LAG, @CDC
    KCW: @HOU, @CDC, SEA, DCU
    LAG: CHI, @HOU, SJE
    NER: @FCD, @COL, CMB, CHI, @CMB
    NYR: @SJE, @RSL, TFC
    RSL: NYR, @TFC, COL
    SEA: @CMB, @KCW, FCD
    SJE: NYR, FCD, @TOR, CDC, LAG
    TFC: SJE, RSL, @NYR[/B]
     
  7. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: The 2009 Playoff Race – Magic Numbers, Tragic Numbers & Other Assorted Obfuscation

    I think writing TFC off at this point is certainly premature. Especially since so many other teams stumbled this week (Colorado, Chivas, Seattle, and DC the main culprits).

    Though they have 35 points with three left, those three are: SJ and RSL at home (two of the poorer road teams in the league not named NY), and @NY. I'd say three wins is a possibility, and thus 44 points. Certainly 42 is with reach, though that may not be enough, but 44 likely is.

    Still, my 8 in order of certainty:
    1) Columbus. In already.

    2) Houston. Can clinch on the week-end with a win v. KC. I like their chances. But a choke could make things interesting, as LA comes to town and then the last one @CHV.

    3) Chivas USA. Easiest schedule and most games in hand. @DC, SJ, KC, @CHI, Hou. The middle two scream win, and that = 44 points. Houston will likely already be in by the end (and may have a meaningful CL game midweek).

    4) LA. Host Chicago this week, then @Hou. If they lose this one, they could be looking at the last game vs. SJ to clinch. And you know the Quakes would love to knock the Gals out.

    5) Chicago. @LA, @NE, CHV is no picnic either. But I gotta think they come through at least once.
    -------------------------------------------------------------

    Gets vulnerable after that.

    6) Colorado. NE, @FCD, @RSL. After choking points away (but simultaneously rescuing two) against SJ, and a draw @KC, just winning at home vs. NE and the 42 points it gives them may not be enough. FCD is scoring in bunches, and @RSL is never a picnic. Missing Clark and Smith out wide hurts.

    7) New England. 5 games left, none are easy. @FCD, @Col, CLB, CHI, @CLB. If CLB already has the SS by the last game, they could get a break.

    8) Seattle. @CLB, @KC, FCD. One home game left. Maybe won't get the Crew's best XI with their focus on Saprissa midweek. Still, a win and a draw gives them 42, and TFC could easily match or better it with their schedule.

    I think TFC has the best chance to oust one of the teams above, followed by DC (two home games left), RSL (must get points @TFC, unless 40 makes it), and FCD (easy next three: NE, @SJ, COL, @SEA). In fact, I think TFC will catch Seattle this week.
     
  8. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Re: The 2009 Playoff Race – Magic Numbers, Tragic Numbers & Other Assorted Obfuscation

    Yeah, that's true. Looking at TFC's schedule you might even believe it's possible for them to win all three games. That said, I don't think you can underestimate SJE right now. They've proven themselves very capable of getting upsets. That's not just the DCU game. COL is vulnerable now because they only managed draws against SJE. In fact, COL may be lucky now to end the season with 43 points. That might be just enough, but it'll be close.

    Code:
    [B][U]Remaining Schedule - By Week[/U]
    
         WK29   WK30   WK31   WK32
    
    CDC: @DCU   KCW    SJE    @CHI
                              HOU
    CHI: @LAG          @NER   CDC
    CMB: SEA    @NER   @DCU   NER
    COL: NER           @FCD   @RSL
    DCU: CDC           CMB    @KCW
    FCD: NER    @SJE   COL    @SEA
    HOU: KCW           LAG    @CDC
    KCW: @HOU   @CDC   SEA    DCU
    LAG: CHI           @HOU   SJE
    NER: @FCD   CMB    CHI    @CMB
         @COL
    NYR: @SJE          @RSL   TFC
    RSL:               NYR    COL
                       @TFC
    SEA: @CMB          @KCW   FCD
    SJE: NYR    FCD    CDC    LAG
                @TOR
    TFC:        SJE    RSL    @NYR
    [/B]
     
  9. boomersooner027

    May 13, 2004
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    Bahamas
    Re: The 2009 Playoff Race – Magic Numbers, Tragic Numbers & Other Assorted Obfuscation

    FCD @ Seattle last game of the season will be a winner take all playoff battle. You heard it here first :D
     
  10. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Re: The 2009 Playoff Race – Magic Numbers, Tragic Numbers & Other Assorted Obfuscation

    United played in the Club World Cup. They had to take some time off for that.
     
  11. boomersooner027

    May 13, 2004
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    Bahamas
    Re: The 2009 Playoff Race – Magic Numbers, Tragic Numbers & Other Assorted Obfuscation

    One week:confused:

    Superliga? CCL?
     
  12. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: The 2009 Playoff Race – Magic Numbers, Tragic Numbers & Other Assorted Obfuscation

    I don't know. Ending with less than 43 would have to be considered a pretty disappointing (and surprising) finish. We've got a Revs team at home this weekend that will be coming off a midweek game against Dallas. For our home finale that should be 3 points, putting us at 42. Then we just need a draw in Dallas, which you know the team will want to shut Cunningham down to help Casey towards toe Golden Boot, or in Sandy against our rivals with the Rocky Mountain Cup on the line and possibly a chance to knock FSL out of contention like hey did to us in the final game last year.

    I expect us to land right on 43, though I wouldn't be shocked by 44 (drawing both road games) or 46 (losing in Dallas and winning in Sandy).
     
  13. GreatGonzo

    GreatGonzo Member+

    Jul 1, 1999
    MA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Re: The 2009 Playoff Race – Magic Numbers, Tragic Numbers & Other Assorted Obfuscation

    Don't forget that the Revs haven't won in Colorado since 2001 or 2002 (don't remember which off the top of my head). Historically, New England really struggles in Colorado, and the Rapids should come away from the upcoming game with 3 points, which would go a long way. If the Rapids don't get 3 points in that game, I have a hard time seeing them getting in.

    I think that New England desperately needs to win at Dallas, thanks to their remaining schedule. Even with two of the games at home, playing against Columbus twice and Chicago won't be easy.

    Definitely an exciting end to the season!
     
  14. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: The 2009 Playoff Race – Magic Numbers, Tragic Numbers & Other Assorted Obfuscation

    Well, I like your chances against the depleted Revs at home, but FCD has been playing pretty well for a while now (post-Cooper), if they can beat the same Revs club as you next week, and win @SJ, they'll be very much alive hosting you guys, and could still max out at 42, and on a roll.

    And I wouldn't want to have your playoff hopes riding on winning/getting points @RSL. That's a tough place to play, and I'd think last year would be fresh in your mind.

    Still, 42 might be enough, but it's going to be close.
     
  15. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Re: The 2009 Playoff Race – Magic Numbers, Tragic Numbers & Other Assorted Obfuscation

    United had 13 days between Premier League matches because of the Club World Cup. They also had the Carling Cup semi-finals, which caused them to re-schedule Premier League matches. There's a legitimate reason that they had played a different number of matches than everyone. In MLS, where all other competitions are played mid-week, there really isn't any reason for teams to have more than one game in hand.
     
  16. Eric B

    Eric B Member

    Feb 21, 2000
    the LBC
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: The 2009 Playoff Race – Magic Numbers, Tragic Numbers & Other Assorted Obfuscation

    SuperLiga and the fact there are an odd amount of teams in the league this year necessitated a lot more off weeks than usual. The point was MLS isn't the only league that ends up with games-in-hand situations, despite the schnozzle-istic cries of "Mickey Mouse!" by some "Comic Store Guy"-type posters around here...
     
  17. boomersooner027

    May 13, 2004
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    Bahamas
    Re: The 2009 Playoff Race – Magic Numbers, Tragic Numbers & Other Assorted Obfuscation

    There are Superliga games played on the weekend.
     
  18. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: The 2009 Playoff Race – Magic Numbers, Tragic Numbers & Other Assorted Obfuscation

    As well as "Summer of Soccer" friendlies.
     
  19. Eric B

    Eric B Member

    Feb 21, 2000
    the LBC
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: The 2009 Playoff Race – Magic Numbers, Tragic Numbers & Other Assorted Obfuscation

    The Galaxy have lost six matches this year, four have been at home to teams currently below them in the West, so I could absolutely see them dropping trow to the NoCals. This Friday's match with the Fire is huge
     
  20. Eliezar

    Eliezar Member+

    Jan 27, 2002
    Houston
    Club:
    12 de Octubre
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: The 2009 Playoff Race – Magic Numbers, Tragic Numbers & Other Assorted Obfuscation

    I guarantee that if we take a peak at England on December 15th of this year we will see some variation in the number of games teams have played. People just love to say stupid stuff about MLS and not hold the European leagues to the same standard.
     
  21. Autogolazo

    Autogolazo BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 19, 2000
    Bombay Beach, CA
    Re: The 2009 Playoff Race – Magic Numbers, Tragic Numbers & Other Assorted Obfuscation

    If Dallas beats the Revs on Wednesday, this thing gets crazy--like 8 drowning men grabbing at each other to stay afloat.

    The new playoff format is providing thrills, chills, spills and chokes aplenty.
     
  22. Mr. Bandwagon

    Mr. Bandwagon Member

    Terremotos
    May 24, 2001
    the Barbary Coast
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: The 2009 Playoff Race – Magic Numbers, Tragic Numbers & Other Assorted Obfuscation

    Small correction: SJE's last 2 matches are both on the road (you have them listed as home games for both teams, but they will each be at the HDC).
     
  23. Eliezar

    Eliezar Member+

    Jan 27, 2002
    Houston
    Club:
    12 de Octubre
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: The 2009 Playoff Race – Magic Numbers, Tragic Numbers & Other Assorted Obfuscation

    Would anybody bet against Dallas beating New England on Wednesday?

    I still think we're seeing LA, Chivas, Houston, Chicago, and Columbus. The final three I'm going to draw out of a hat.
     
  24. footballfantatic

    Mar 27, 2008
    Ontario, California
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: The 2009 Playoff Race – Magic Numbers, Tragic Numbers & Other Assorted Obfuscation

    This is a playoff race! I love this format. Basically no teams are out (RB) and there are only 3-4 games left!!!!
     
  25. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: The 2009 Playoff Race – Magic Numbers, Tragic Numbers & Other Assorted Obfuscation

    Well, KC will bid adieu this week, in all probability. SJ has a bunch of GIH and NY at home this week, so they probably live on (mathematically).
     

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