Media Gushing Over the Mutt -- Do Not Read on Full Stomach

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  1. Karl K

    Karl K Member

    Oct 25, 1999
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    So the Media have moved from being in the tank, to anointing The Mutt....as the savior?

    Here is Nancy Gibbs of Time Magazine, applying the rhetoric of the....what exactly?

    And, you BO supporters, if this doesn't strike you as really really creepy...well, its definitely hopeless.

    http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1856914,00.html

    Oh, new nickname by the way. The Prince.
     
  2. JeremyEritrea

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  3. onefineesq

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    From a party that still creams their collective pants at the very MENTION of Ronald Reagan, it strikes me as funny that you all are so offended by media types who express admiration for Barack Obama. That's just me though.
     
  4. Karl K

    Karl K Member

    Oct 25, 1999
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    So, I take it that it doesn't strike you as creepy.

    Why am I not surprised?
     
  5. Karl K

    Karl K Member

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    Another lefty, using the tired trick of accusing the other side of doing the same thing, only worse.

    Don't you guys have better debating techniques? Apparently not.

    Meanwhile, like some of on the left, you simply don't understand the meaning of words.

    There's admiration.

    And then there's worship.

    Run to the dictionary now.
     
  6. onefineesq

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    1. Registered independent who votes all up and down the spectrum. 2. A great debating tactic by righties I see that you use, accusing ANYONE who disagrees with you of being a looney "leftie". A wonderful tired tactic of nutty "righties" like youself. I would hope that this thumping would have reformed some of you, but i guess i was wrong. 3. You are the one who are characterizing this as "worship". So let me get this straight. You accuse someone who most would say has "admiration" as someone who is using "worship" and then bash them based upon your biased opinion. I understand words sir, I just think that yours are a bunch of BS. Look up the definition of worship and admiration and then get back to me. Awww hell, why bother. You still won't get it.

    By the way, you do know that the "King" they are talking about is Martin Luther King, right? Somehow I am certain that one flew right over your head.
     
  7. Karl K

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    Oct 25, 1999
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    Fair enough. But Reagan bashing is an attempt to diminish Obama bashing is not something I would expect from an "independent."

    Well, if someone disagrees with my opinion, and their's is loony, I will say so. Typically these opinions come from the left.

    Hey, I didn't use the manger analogy. It was this ga-ga-eyed reporter.

    By the way, do you know that the reporter was being "clever" (in a high school sophomore kind of way) by playing on the double meaning of King? (MLK and King of?)

    Not to mention all the "royalist" sentiments.

    Something I am sure flew right over your head.
     
  8. Chris M.

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    While "cream their pants" language was a little strong, the point is a good one. There is nothing wrong with a leader coming along from either party that insprires genuine excitement. We have far too many elections where people go to the polls holding their collective noses. I suspect there were a lot of McCain votes that fell into that category.

    As someone who cast his very first vote as a teenager for Reagan in 1984, I can see similarities in the way his supporters and Obama's feel about their respective candidates even with the passage of time.

    Yea, that was over the top. Still, I am going to cut slack to anyone -- citizen or reporter -- that is suffering from a little euphoria less than a week after the election. Given our countries history, what happened last Tuesday is frankly jaw dropping. It would be the same if it were president elect Colin Powell or Condeleeza Rice.

    Again, that was an attempt at cleverness that should have ended up on the cutting room floor. I mentioned the significance of last Tuesday and this reporter was trying to capture that in a clumsy way.

    The truth is that Obama is not some heir to the throne of MLK (now you have me doing it). MLK never wanted to be a congressman, a senator, a president. Most people who truly fight and bleed for a singular issue (in this case, social justice) are not looking to take the reins of power. Obama is the result that King envisioned. A guy who was elected president on his message and his merits and who happens to be black.

    Yes, he would be greatly satisfied by last Tuesday. Then on January 21, 2009, King would be banging on the door of the oval office demanding that President Obama do more to level the playing field.
     
  9. IntheNet

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    I must have missed "his merits" that may have been achieved for the good citizens of Illinois... what were they pray tell? Using the Executive Office as an oppressed minority apologia so past sins are set right strikes me only as "cream their pants" asinine.
     
  10. Chris M.

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    That point flew way, way over your head. By "merits" I'm not talking about resume material (although his was thicker than you would ever give him credit) I'm talking about how he won by going out and asking for votes based on what he would do as President and not simply asking for votes because he is black.

    He ran like many other candidates -- pushing a plan on energy, on the economy, on Iraq etc. I would think that even you would concede that he did not run on a platform of "elect the first black president, it would be so cool."
     
  11. HerthaBerwyn

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    His merits, for those of you who cant (wont) quantify them, need not extend beyond convincing a plurality, both absolute and electoral, to vote for him.

    Its called Freedom. Get over it.
     
  12. Eric B

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    Lastort: Laugh it up, fuzzball. The same gloating you lot are doing we were doing in 1980, 1988, and 2000 (although 2004 was even more fun), and we'll be doing again in likely '12 or '16...
     
  13. Karl K

    Karl K Member

    Oct 25, 1999
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    Really?

    Come clean...did you really say the same thing about W??

    Hey, the electorate has spoken and I, unlike some on the other side when it went against them, have no problem with it.

    But I will continue to hold his feet to fire, and let all of you know that the Mutt is not some sort of transformational post racial Messiah, but, in the end, a ruthless Chicago machine dyed-in-the-wool Rooseveltian semi-socialist lefty Newish Deal democrat.
     
  14. bojendyk

    bojendyk New Member

    Jan 4, 2002
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    Regardless of how you feel about his politics, you should certainly know that Obama isn't and never has been a Chicago machine Democrat, in spite of periodically having to work with machine members.

    Dan Hynes, I believe, was the machine candidate in the 2004 Senate race.
     
  15. HerthaBerwyn

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    If Obama has, as Ive been told by reactionary radio, the instincts of a Chicago street thug, that should relax their concerns about him dealing with Ahmadinejad , Medvedev and Putin. Or, are those instincts not applicable when inconvenient to the premature vilification?
     
  16. Eric B

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    I'd disagree with that assesment of Barry, as I doubt a street thug would take peace before victory. Plus, the instincts of a lawyer and an academic scare me more...
     
  17. Microwave

    Microwave New Member

    Sep 22, 1999
    You know what bothers me about conservatives lately? They fail to admit the plain and obvious truth. I saw a infomercial the other day for a product called the "Brop" which was a combination broom and mop. Then I saw Obama's infomercial. Let me tell you that it was obvious that Obama's infomercial was more entertaining but not once did I hear a republican admit that Obama makes good informercials. Not even once. Rush Limbaugh did not say that Obama makes quality infomercials and Faux News did not admit it either. Furthermore if you make a good infomercial why can't you logically deduce that you would be a good President as well? So in conclusion, Reichpublicans know nothing about infomercials.
     
  18. IntheNet

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    You're absolutely right.... Obama is a damn good liar; far better than McCain!
     
  19. Eric B

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    Popeil/Mays in 2012!

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  20. Demosthenes

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    Why shouldn't the media worship Obama? He is more than worthy of it. In his relatively short career, He has already accomplished more than Reagan, Dubya, and every other Republican President combined (that's their net achievements, subtracting their failures from their accomplishments, of course). Now that He is about to take office, Obama will only continue to bring light and progress to our nation. Of course progress-haters like you can't see that. Or more likely, you can see it and you resent the news media for allowing everyone else to see it too.
     
  21. Microwave

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  22. Karl K

    Karl K Member

    Oct 25, 1999
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    They worship him because he looks like he just stepped out of a Ralph Lauren ad. In the New York Times Sunday magazine. He's a great symbol.

    You're either trying to pull our chain...or you REALLY believe this.

    If it's the first, then not so good a joke. If it's the second, I suggest you seek help immediately.
     
  23. Chris M.

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  24. IntheNet

    IntheNet New Member

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    Slobber much?

    In my life thus far I have never witnessed a candidate clearly hoodwink the masses as OB evidently has with only a tabula rosa; the man has never managed much less balance a budget, never hired/fired a staff, or until recently, never met a foreign leader, yet his comatose disciples annointe him with experience that he clearly lacks and credit him with accomplishments as yet empty. The junior Senator seat in Illinois he now will abandon also has no accomplishments; he using the position only as a springboard for his campaign. BO enters the Executive Office as this nation's most underqualified occupant without a single solitary accomplishment beyond pulling a magic trick on his supporters - convincing them the experience glass is half full when it is clearly bone dry!
     
  25. Karl K

    Karl K Member

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