Merdeka Cup 2008

Discussion in 'AFC: Tournaments' started by druryfire, Sep 20, 2008.

  1. druryfire

    druryfire Member

    Sep 10, 2007
    England
    PETALING JAYA: The 40th Mer­deka Tournament, scheduled for next month, has attracted a poor field, with only Sierra Leone and Myanmar ranked higher than hosts Malaysia.

    Seven teams have confirmed their participation in the eight-nation tournament, which will be held at the Shah Alam Stadium from Oct 15-25.

    Sierra Leone, No. 145 in the FIFA world rankings, and Myanmar (160) are ahead of Malaysia (161).

    The other five nations are Vietnam (166), Nepal (177), Bangladesh (179) and Afghanistan (182).

    Kazakhstan (120) have yet to con­firm their participation while Pakistan (168) have been put on standby.

    Malaysia emerged champions last year when they defeated Myanmar 3-1 in the final.

    The national team, under chief coach B. Sathianathan, are on a playing tour of Slovakia to prepare for the Merdeka Tournament and the Asean Football Federation (AFF) Suzuki Cup tournament in December.

    http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.asp?file=/2008/9/20/sports/2078104&sec=sports
     
  2. TechFootball85

    TechFootball85 New Member

    May 1, 2007
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    For my parents' generation, Merdeka Cup was their World Cup when they were teenagers. According to my Dad, when Korea won the tournament, the whole country celebrated like we won the World Cup.
     
  3. happy

    happy Member

    Nov 23, 2004
    Yeah, the age of the Friendly Cup are over

    Such Cup were more useful & popluar 20-30 years ago when travelling was tougher & the WCQ & ACQ were played over 1-2 month & there were no domestic league fixture (in most of Asia) to compete in so such competition may be the only competition a team get to play that year

    The FAs organiser cld thus get good competition & it build up the reputation but now it impossible & qns must be asked if it worth the effort

    Other Cup like HK Calrsberg Cup only attract club teams, nt NT anymore, & reserve team at that
     
  4. Edgar

    Edgar Member

    They do provide matches for teams already out of the preliminaries.
     
  5. happy

    happy Member

    Nov 23, 2004
    There r a nos of international competition to cover that

    Regional cup like Suzuki Cup (ASEAN), WAFF Cup (West Asia), Gulf Cup (Gulf reigon), EAFF Cup (East Asia), SAFF Cup (South Asia) r all playing on a 2 year basis

    Other than that, there is also a AFC challenge Cup now for the weak teams like Nepal etc

    There why the Friendly Cup do nt attract teams now as there r more recognised competitions in this age.
     
  6. jonny63

    jonny63 Member+

    Feb 17, 2005
    Norway
    Merdeka is good preparation for Malaysia before ASEAN Championship. The best Asian teams are busy with World Cup qualifiers and to get 8 national teams to play in a tournament in October is quite impressive even though the teams are not as good as before.

    Merdeka tournament started already in 1957.

    http://www.rsssf.com/tablesm/merdeka.html
     
  7. happy

    happy Member

    Nov 23, 2004
    The prblem is nt this year version, next year or any future version

    The problem is ASEAN FAs r putting all their effort into hosting such events.

    The highlight of their year r always their own Friendly Cup but it does nt help them 1 bit come crunch time in the WCQ or ACQ.

    Thai hve won the last few King Cup, Malaysia also in Merdeka, Indonesia just won the Independence Cup & Myanmar the Royal Cup but none hve make a big leap in standard & worse is with the $ & effort in such Friendly Cup, it mean they r always at home as they seldom travel & plus a few games (usually at home as well) is all they played a year

    That why results away always hve a loop side to it

    S'pore won no pts away in the ACQ 06 but in the recent WCQ improve to 2 win, 1 draw & 2 lost away & it came from spending $, that is likely to equal hosting such Friendly Cup, playing in UAE, Oman, Kuwait since 2006 etc

    ASEAN will remain in the rut if FAs only care abt winning such Friendly Cup as the QC hve dropped & it is no longer a guage of improvement.
     
  8. fancom

    fancom New Member

    Sep 12, 2007
    Viet Nam will send the U23 team.
     
  9. druryfire

    druryfire Member

    Sep 10, 2007
    England
    Totally agree, most people i talk to are just happy to win something, so if it's winning King's Cup or whatever they are happy and is good enough for them, but they don't seem to see into the future when the big matches come along and we suffer because we play pointless tournement after tournement

    . But all these nations dream of world cup one day, but they aren't going to make it, with the way they enter all these tournements, hell, Merdeka is a mini AFF Suzuki Cup. But these nations do not seem to notice that all they ever do is play the same teams time after time. No wonder they struggle when they have to go to West Asia for crucial world cup or asian cup points
     
  10. happy

    happy Member

    Nov 23, 2004
    Everybody love to win a trophy

    That why Ireland, Scotland, N.Ireland & Wales r joining together to play the Home Cup to get a trophy

    However with a Asean championship aka Suzuki Cup established in the region, wonder at times why the FAs do nt change Merdeka Cup or King Cup or Agribank Cup into U23 or U21 event instead as it is the youth that need more such games, nt NT who shld be traveling to West Asia to play tougher games for ACQ & WCQ

    Even the weaker ASEAN team hve AFC Challenge Cup to look forward to now along with ASEAN Championship Qualifiers so more than enough games for ASEAN NT
     
  11. Syriaman

    Syriaman Member

    Oct 31, 2007
    Stuttgart,Aleppo
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Syria
    Oh man so many friendly tournaments and no Syria in one!

    King´s Cup,Merdeka Cup and T&T Cup.
     
  12. druryfire

    druryfire Member

    Sep 10, 2007
    England
    Maybe Syria should create their own. But seriously, i think the days when Syria might have played in a tournement like this are long gone.

    They have kind of moved up a step higher than the likes of Vietnam, Malaysia etc, so really they want to be getting involved in games slightly higher.

    Around your region, you need to be playing the likes of Oman, Qatar, Kuwait, UAE on a regular basis and moving into Europe, get games against Cyprus, Kazahkstan rather than meddling over in ASEAN tournements, where you won't really benefit, and would more than likely do more harm than good.

    I suppose your WAFF Championship is just like the Merdeka Tournement, so you don't need more games for the sake of it. But you need more regional competition to keep you going for when their is no Asian Cup or World Cup qualifiying left, thats where Arab Nations helps you out, but has kind of gone missing.

    You could do with Arab nations, but then, you are amongest bigger nations that will not want it due to competing further into World Cup games, so you just need a Friendly tournment that involves Arab teams like Sudan, Yemen and an Oman - something like that anyway. Anyway, just my opinion!
     
  13. Syriaman

    Syriaman Member

    Oct 31, 2007
    Stuttgart,Aleppo
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Syria
    You are right brother,but look we aren´t playing ANY friendlies,that is terrible.We don´t have a coach.Bye,bye,Asian Cup 2011!:(
     
  14. druryfire

    druryfire Member

    Sep 10, 2007
    England
  15. jonny63

    jonny63 Member+

    Feb 17, 2005
    Norway
    PETALING JAYA: Hosts Malaysia have been placed in Group A with Sierra Leone, Nepal and Afghanistan for the 40th Merdeka Tournament, which will be held at the MBPJ Stadium in Kelana Jaya from Oct 15-25.

    Mozambique, ranked 102nd on the FIFA list, will be the top draw card in Group B with Myanmar, Bangladesh and Vietnam. The Group B matches will be held at the Shah Alam Stadium.

    http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.asp?file=/2008/10/9/sports/2226478&sec=sports
     
  16. edrees

    edrees Member

    Nov 28, 2005
    any TV coverage for this tournement?

    eager to see what Afg can do after they failed to perform to there potential (with a depleted squad though) in the Challenge Cup, tough group for them, but lets see what happens..
     
  17. rapster88

    rapster88 New Member

    Aug 22, 2007
    Where can I get the fixtures ?
     
  18. jonny63

    jonny63 Member+

    Feb 17, 2005
    Norway
    I cant see they have been released yet.
     
  19. jonny63

    jonny63 Member+

    Feb 17, 2005
    Norway
    First match October 15 : Malaysia - Nepal
     
  20. mcruic

    mcruic Member

    Jun 26, 2004
    Scotland
    Club:
    Dundee United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    15th October
    Malaysia v Nepal
    Afghanistan v Sierra Leone

    16th October
    Bangladesh v Mozambique
    Myanmar v Vietnam U-23

    17th October
    Malaysia v Afghanistan
    Nepal v Sierra Leone

    18th October
    Bangladesh v Myanmar
    Mozambique v Vietnam U-23

    19th October
    Malaysia v Sierra Leone
    Afghanistan v Nepal

    20th October
    Bangladesh v Vietnam U-23
    Mozambique v Myanmar

    23rd October
    Semi-Finals

    25th October
    Final

    Matches on 17th and 19th may be reversed, not sure yet. Any news on the African teams, are they bringing their national teams? Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Malaysia, Myanmar and Nepal definitely are. Vietnam are definitely bringing their U-23 team.
     
  21. rapster88

    rapster88 New Member

    Aug 22, 2007
    Would be nice if you could give me the match times too :) . I'm right now in Malaysia so I wish I can watch it on TV.
     
  22. yazadarit

    yazadarit Member

    Aug 27, 2008
    Hope that Myanmar will reclaim the Merdeka Cup this time. But it would be much difficult this year..
     
  23. jonny63

    jonny63 Member+

    Feb 17, 2005
    Norway

    Malaysia play 8.45 Pm today local time.

    Afghanistan - Sierra Leone is probably played on 19. and not today.
     
  24. druryfire

    druryfire Member

    Sep 10, 2007
    England
    Will they play on 16? 19 is already taken up
     

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