The Official Thread of the Haitian National Teams

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  1. Warlord

    Warlord New Member

    Jun 8, 2005
    District of Columbia

    I think you should worry about why you havent gotten out semi final rounds in recent past than worry bout Jamaica's chances. Facts are facts and no one gets easy games against Jamaica. That is no Concacaf opponent including you home or away. Last semifinal round we actually had a better away record than at home but thats beside the point. We have your number and we've beaten Canada with depleted sides amny times before. And umm naw..weaint in the same boat wit you. Haiti is..lol

    Its over 20yrs since youve sniffed a WC. Now dude why not just wait and see who gets eliminated after the first 3 games of the semifinal before opening your trap. And we will manhandle tha sh*t outta Honduras BLEE DAT!!:D
     
  2. Warlord

    Warlord New Member

    Jun 8, 2005
    District of Columbia
    Who cares what or who the other forumers talk about. I see no point in debating wit idiots. Id rather let results speak for itself. I'll wait.;)
     
  3. Warlord

    Warlord New Member

    Jun 8, 2005
    District of Columbia
    oh btw..Flash EP, Pace, Touppoyo..your creoles just lost to the Soca Warriors.

    Trinidad and Tobago 2 vs Haiti 0. :D


    The socawarriors played without a number of their first team players, yet you had avery strong squad. Hmnnnn.;)
     
  4. pace8

    pace8 Member

    Aug 17, 2006
    Miami and Montreal
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    Haiti
    Wow would you like a medal?....
    Its weird friendlies suddenly mean alot to you. When Jamaica embarassaed the Concacaf recently by losing to the worst teams in Asia....they were just friendlies...but when T&T beats Haiti...its a big deal to you lol
    By the way, what makes you think we had a strong squad? That was not T&Ts B team by the way....forget the english based players you had in 2006...they wont come back...that is your team now. Now Haiti deserves to get shit for losing a game like that but that was our B team...no Jean Jacques Pierre(Ligue 1), no Frantz Bertin (Spain), no Fabrice Noel(USl), no Ricardo Pierre Louis (MLS), no Placide ( Ligue 1), and the list goes on. This was an all local squad. But still, very disapointing result.
     
  5. Trin

    Trin Member

    Sep 6, 2005
    pa
    I know Warlord can get to u guys but that statement just isn't true at all. That was a strong T&T squad, but was still missing the majority of our European based pros. Basically the defense was the starting D, minus Dennis Lawrence. But the mids and the strikers were, like u guys, missing several key starters. (Stern John, Carlos Edwards, Darryl Roberts, Jason Scotland, Collin Samuels, Silvio Spann even Yorke to name a few)
    In all honesty the result in this game is quite misleading as Haiti outplayed us for long periods in the first half. Poor finishing really cost them. T&T was much improved in the second half but the two goals both came from set piece, free kicks. The Haitian Goal keeper really needs to work on his high balls; all 4 of Birchall's lofted frees caused him trouble with 2 resulting in goals. Other than that there were few clear cut chances for either side in the natural run of play.
     
  6. pace8

    pace8 Member

    Aug 17, 2006
    Miami and Montreal
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    Haiti
    I did some research and you are right you were missing some players, but the T&T team was more ''full'' than the haitian squad thats for sure. That doesnt excuse the performance, because Haiti usually outplay their opponents on ball possesion but cant seem to score. We are expecting some help up front from Europe and the MLS for our next games though. Some observers said we should have won the game at least 3-0, but as always, too many clear chances were missed. And you are right about our keeper. His is capble of the best and the worst.
     
  7. Warlord

    Warlord New Member

    Jun 8, 2005
    District of Columbia

    You really need to stop living in the past dude. Jamaicas losses in the far East were almost 2 years ago under the a different president and different coaching staff. We are talking about 2008 now and the reality of your squad and everything else. Since winning your only CFU Cup your senior squad has done nothing really.;) Fiendlies are always important in terms of preparation. And Trinidad's team that haiti played against had only 4 players from their WC roster. The rest of the starting team yesterday were players from their Professional team. Haiti fielded a mucg stronger team and still lost what does that tell you?

    First you cannot beat another minnow like yourselves in Netherland Antilles and against a CFU giant missing Kenwyne Jones and company you still cannot do the business. I'd be worried about my team if I were you. Everytime Haiti loses a game there's always some excuse..we're missing this player and that player and its a Bteam. Dude you do not have a Bteam? You arent that good..lol:D
     
  8. Warlord

    Warlord New Member

    Jun 8, 2005
    District of Columbia

    Did you see the game? Haiti didnt outplay the Soca Warriors son. Striker Cornell Glenn had a one on one with the Haitian keeper very early in the first half and missed that opportunity? They were very few chances for Haiti. At times yall had the ball but couldnt penetrate the Soca warriors defense. As a matter of fact the scoreline shouldve been doubled for the soca warriors if not for their missed chances. Stop making excuses for your hapless team. They're sh*t and they've been sh*t for more than a year now.;)
     
  9. Warlord

    Warlord New Member

    Jun 8, 2005
    District of Columbia
    Taken from the Warriorssite..


    Victory by two over Haiti.
    By: John Peters.

    Trinidad and Tobago’s Senior Team completed a 2-0 victory against Haiti courtesy of second half goals by Keyeno Thomas and Cornell Glen in Wednesdays friendly international at the Marvin Lee Stadium, Macoya.

    Warming up for next month’s semi final round World Cup qualifier away to Cuba, the Cyd Gray-led Soca Warriors suffered a setback mere minutes before kick off when captain Aurtis Whitley suffered a blow to the ankle in the warm up and had to be replaced in the starting line up by Kevaughn Connell.

    The hosts struggled to find their rhythm in the opening 45 minutes as Haiti looked more purposeful and enjoyed larger periods of possession. T&T, playing the 4-5-1 formation with Glen alone up top, only settled in the second half and subsequently found the net in quick succession.

    T&T did however create the first good try on goal on nine minutes. Connell pushed forward down the left and played one over neatly to the onrushing Khaleem Hyland but he couldn’t connect well allowing Fenelon Gabart an easy pick up.

    Three minutes later Haiti showed their intentions when Germain Peter had his effort deflected inches wide of the goal. Glen, who made a couple surging runs on either side of the half, also had a one time shot saved before the 20-minute mark.

    Chris Birchall would be the spot kick server for T&T on the night and caused the Haitian defense their first bit of problems with a well served ball from the left which made good height before going wide off the far post off Thomas’ head.

    Haiti did manage some inroads into the T&T goal area but never managed to cause major panic in the T&T back line. They had no less than 16 players in their squad on Wednesday from the squad which beat Netherlands Antilles 1-0 over two legs in last month's World Cup tie. Missing on Wednesday were veteran Pierre Bruny and Cadet Eliphene.

    The game picked up pace after the interval with T&T breaking the deadlock. On 62 minutes Birchall’s perfectly flighted free kick from left found the head of Thomas and Gabart had no chance of stopping the ball from entering the net.

    Haiti almost got back into the match on 68 minutes when goalie Marvin Philip failed to hold Chery Mones’ left side cross but Peter could only head over from the six yard.

    T&T got the 2-0 cushion in the 70th minute when another Birchall delivery from the spot came over from the left and Thomas headed across for an onrushing Glen to convert from close range.

    Teams

    T&T: - 21-Marvin Phillips. 3-Avery John, 4-Makan Hislop, 5-Keyeno Thomas, 6-Khaleem Hyland, 7-Christopher Birchall (16-Radanfah Abu Bakr 76th), 8-Cyd Gray (capt), 10-Kerry Baptiste (17-Anthony Wolfe 62nd), 2-Kevaughn Connell (11-Andre Toussaint 72nd), 13-Cornell Glen, 18-Densill Theobald.

    Did not play: - 2-Aklie Edwards, 15-Gyasi Joyce,1-Cleon John.

    Haiti: - 1-Fenelon Gabart, 2-Alcenat Jn Sony, 4-Germain Peter (19.Jean Baptiste Fritzon 69th), 17-Alain Vubert 5-Jerome Mechack, 7-Fucien Brunel (11.Gustave Alain, 78th), (10-Alexandre Boucicaut 59th) 9-Leonel St Prux, 3-Gilles Frantz (15-Raymond Ednerson 77th), 12-Sampeur Markoel, 22-Chery Mones, 20-Joseph Peterson (16-Jean Marc Alexandre).

    Did not play: - 30- Pierre Louis Wings, 6-Guerrier Parnel.

    Match Officials

    Referee – Kevin Tmas (Jamaica)
    Assistant 1 – Egert Paesch (Aruba)
    Assistant 2 – Triston Tullock (Jamaica)
    Fourth Official – Dave Peterkin (Jamaica)



    You fielded a strong squad in this game while the warriors as I said earlier fielded a majority of their PFL players. And whats worse a Jamaican referee took charge of the match..lol:D
     
  10. pace8

    pace8 Member

    Aug 17, 2006
    Miami and Montreal
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    Haiti
    Another Trini's perspective on the game:


    The teams took to the field at nearly 20 past 6 and kickoff did not actually take place till closer to 6:30. The Haitian players sang their national anthem, while TT finally got a copy of the anthem to play over the PA system.

    The referee was from Jamaica and made some questionable calls to both teams throughout the game. Birchall was also off the field for a few minutes and was deliberately ignored by the ref and not allowed to return to the pitch for going off to have his fingers taped up. However all our goals came from free kicks he awarded and about 4 yellow cards were shown to various Haitian players for roughing us up.

    TT started of in a 4-5-1

    Marvin Phillip in goal….back 4 of Cyd, Hislop,Thomas and John.
    Midfield of Baptiste, Theobold, Hyland, Me Mum and Kevaughn Connell
    Glenn alone up front.

    Haiti played a 3-5-2 .

    The game kicks off and Haiti strokes the ball masterfully giving TT a lesson in ball possession. After 14 seconds, a through ball is misjudged by Hislop. It is misjudged by Phillip and the Haitian forward has an open goal to shoot at. However the bounce of the ball deceived him and let TT off the hook.

    For the next 15 minutes TT could not come out of their half and balls were being whipped into the TT box with the Haitian forwards throwing away clear cut sitters unmarked in our area. Cyd was shakey, Avery didn’t find himself yet and Hislop’s inexperience and lack of quality showed in comparison to his counterparts at the back. To his credit he improved as the game wore on and did well coming down to the end.

    One good sign is that we came out of this game with a clean sheet, however we were lucky the Haitian team left their scoring boots at home. Phillips was sloppy at times. He made some decent saves, but his distribution and kicking needs plenty work. He kicked out the ball at least 10 times and only found a TT player ONCE…in the 90th minute of the game. He simply gave the ball to the Haitian team each time.

    Folks I wish we could look like Haiti….yes I said it.

    They put on a polished, knocking, cohesive game, with a good brand, good plan, they did not panic in defence knocking the ball out under pressure and running rings around us in midfield. Sometimes two players would execute a one-two and run around 3-4 TT players in the middle. All kinda back flick, heel, wrong address was shared by them and they were fluid in going forward and organizing their defence. They share all kinda tollum, and we simply eat beat right tru. Worse yet we ent share nuttin, we ent rest no kinda blade on them, they rough us up and hit us some elbow and screen and while they got cards for these actions were were effectively off of our game.


    TT created one dangerous moment in the first half where on a counter attack Connell beat 3 men and threaded a ball for an overlapping Cyd Gray who found himself One on One with the keeper. However the attempted shot was closed down as the keeper tackled him bravely and won the ball. Apart from that TT did not have a clue.

    Possession was hard to come by…we chased Haiti for most of the first half and I would put possession at 80/20…..yes it was that bad.

    When we did get possession we had no options going fwd…Glen had a bad game, his touch was off and he was completely locked down with no support. Hyland, Birchall, Theobold and Baptiste had no clue as to what to do in the middle.

    Three players with similar styles and roles doing nothing. Nothing creative going forward. No closing down of spaces and any small passes being made by them were shut out. Of the lot, Theobold looked competent and stood head and shoulders over all the other players on the field…but his magic dust lasted for about 30 minutes and that was it. Jam after Jam, mis trap, bad pass and well dat was it for him.

    0-0 at the half and it seemed all doom and gloom.

    Birchall seemed frustrated for the entire time he was on the field. I detect something is not right. He was not given the ball by his teammates even when free. He was only used as an outlet or a last resort so all the balls to him were hospital balls. He tackled well and hustled but he did not win many tackles and was late. However he did close down the space and show the hustle we know. He gave glen some nice cross field diagonal balls but these were few and far between. His biggest asset and where TT scored were the dangerous balls that he whipped into the box. TT had about 6 free kicks from about 40 meters out and birchall dipped some curlers into the area which the Haitian goalie could not get. Thomas and Hislop were the men on the end but each time they did not attack the ball properly or follow up the play turning their back etc. However both goals came from free kicks floated in. The first was headed straight in by Keyno Thomas…the second the ball is played far and looks to be going out but is headed back across the goal by Thomas and Glen chests it in. The goal celebrations were muted and certain men you could see friendly with others.

    Connell did three things well tonight…he beat three men and set up Cyd for TT’s attempt. He took the ball and ran at defenders and got kicked down resulting in the free kicks that Birchall took. But apart from that he may have played his way off the team. He was totally bun…did not make a tackle, was ball watching, did not support the play and was the pullstones of the night. He not only pull stones, but he hung and swing on some a few times well. He was given a standing ovation when he was subbed and the poor fella actually thought it was a compliment, when in fact the crowd was showing appreciation that he was off the field.

    Baptiste was as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike.

    Hyland (who Andre Samuel said did not put a foot wrong) looked like he had both oars in the water…too bad they were both on the same side of the boat.
    He played in the makalele position, but no kinda tackles pass, he intercepted a few but he also tee up some shots for the Haitian forwards as well. On his fwd jaunts he needlessly gave away the ball or provided a bad pass.

    Theobold…good opening 20 -30 minutes…then the magic dust ran out….he got some serious tun up in the middle and is in his second trimester. Clearly unfit!

    Glenn was as useful as a kickstand on a horse…failed to dribble past his markers, did not hold up the ball, made errant passes, touch was off….but he scored from a tap in on the line.(the irony)

    Cyd and Avery…good in the tackle and shared blade. They both started slow and shakey, made some bad pass and sloppy trap…but they both go forward and overlap well. They have cemented their positions on the field.

    Hislop got better as the game wore on

    Thomas was decent..scored a good goal but does not track his players well and is a tad slow.

    The subs were Wolfe, Toussaint and Abu Bakr.

    Wolfe was very nifty and came on for Birchall. Both goals were scored already but he settled the game, hustled in the middle, spread the ball around and was penetrative going forwards and supporting the play well. A good sub.

    Toussaint had 10 minutes to skillfully trap the long balls kicked to him…only to beat his marker stink once…and lose the ball or fall down right after. You could see he has skill but is suited to small goal and futsal. Not effective on a big field.

    Abu Baker got a 5 min corbeaux…he was slotted in the back and TT played 5-4-1. Cannot rate him due to limited playing time.

    TT started to pass the ball around and look like we had an idea in the last 10 minutes of the match. Haiti were desperate and throwing everything forward and they made a number of subs as well.

    Haiti created at least 4 clear cut chances in the game and had a number of shots…good bullets too saved by Phillips. They were unlucky not to score and were the better team on the night. I honestly think with some better forwards they could qualify for the Hex and they will only get better.

    TT I just ent know boy…this side not improving and looking worse each game. A decent opponent run rings around us and showing up all the glaring deficiencies. The midfield ent wukking, the lone fwd ent wukking, the defence shakey…and yet still we keep a clean sheet and score 2.

    Hard to explain, yuh just have to see it for yourself.

    I guess the coach is still looking at players and new ones in the mix but I find plenty players ent making sense and you know for sure who getting drop when the foreign based come back. I ent know where to put Hyland on the field he becoming less and less effective, I ent know where Daniel will go and it’s a battle for me mum, theobold, whitley, yorke and Clyde leon in the center.

    I think they should call back Patterson to run the left wing or put Theobold back there…or Whitley.

    Sad but we need Yorke to stabilize this side.

    Haiti will give us run for our money across there and I would not be surprised if the scoreline is in their favour.

    I not seeing the improvement and time is drawing closer. More questions are being asked each time we see this team play and the answers not forthcoming. I feel more and more uneasy with this group each time I see them.

    Oh well…once we win ent!
     
  11. pace8

    pace8 Member

    Aug 17, 2006
    Miami and Montreal
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    Haiti
    You can argue all you want, the fact is Haiti did not field their A team. When you are missing 6 european based players that would normally be starters then yes it is a B team. Haiti's B team played T&T's B team...is that difficult to understand. You named all the players you were missing for T&T. Here are the players we were missing: Jean Jacques Pierre ( Ligue 1), Bertin ( Spain div 3), Aveska ( Argentina ), Norde ( Argentina), Fellinga ( Euredevise), Francois Lescinel ( Ligue 2), Fabrice Noel ( USL 1), Ricardo Pierre Louis ( MLS), Abel Thermeus ( Spain div 2), Romain Genevois ( Ligue 2), Charles Davidson ( French div 3), Regilion Nooitmeer ( Scotish div 1)....all players that will be called to play WQC matches. All players that have played for the haitian team recently. So no...nice try but we did not field a strong team.
     
  12. nloplo

    nloplo New Member

    Jul 5, 2007
    humm:rolleyes:

    Haiti: - 1-Fenelon Gabart(free agent,no longer with miami fc), 2-Alcenat Jn Sony, 4-Germain Peter (19.Jean Baptiste Fritzon 69th), 17-Alain Vubert(replacing stphane guillaume) 5-Jerome Mechack(u-20 player.2nd match with the seniors), 7-Fucien Brunel (11.Gustave Alain(u-23 player.2nd match for the seniors), 78th), (10-Alexandre Boucicaut 59th) 9-Leonel St Preux, 3-Gilles Frantz (15-Raymond Ednerson 77th), 12-Sampeur Markoel(1st cap), 22-Chery Mones, 20-Joseph Peterson(u-20,got talent but not an experienced midfielder) (16-Jean Marc Alexandre(never heard of him)).

    Did not play: - 30- Pierre Louis Wings, 6-Guerrier Parnel.

    the only two players that are maybe not local players are wings and parnel. we call european players for IMPORTANT matches not test games against TT:p. man,give it a rest warlord:cool:
     
  13. pace8

    pace8 Member

    Aug 17, 2006
    Miami and Montreal
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    Haiti

    Wings and Parnel are local players. This was an all local team except for keeper Gabart.
     
  14. Trin

    Trin Member

    Sep 6, 2005
    pa
    And he cost u the game lol
    tough luck
     
  15. pace8

    pace8 Member

    Aug 17, 2006
    Miami and Montreal
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    Haiti
    Lol thats true. That is why we are pushing hard for Johny Placide, keeper for Le Havre in French Ligue 1 to play for our senior team. He was simply amazing for our u23s at the Olympic qualifiers.
     
  16. Warlord

    Warlord New Member

    Jun 8, 2005
    District of Columbia

    Thats the view of 1 supporter. I guess you are now relying on the view of a socawarrior fan to justify comfort in losing..lol:D

    The fact is you still lost comfortably against them. They had your number.;)
     
  17. Warlord

    Warlord New Member

    Jun 8, 2005
    District of Columbia
    Dude you keep harping on the fact that Haiti didnt field an A team. :rolleyes: It aint like Trinidad fielded an A team either. I could name you at least 10 players from their squad who didnt play and would feature in their A team.

    You are not that good and never have been? What B team your talking about? Nobody talks about you in Concacaf as a CFU giant son. All people speak about are the 2 perrenial giants in Jamaica and Trinidad and Tobago. You lost to a CFU giant just accept it. What a sore loser..lol:D
     
  18. Warlord

    Warlord New Member

    Jun 8, 2005
    District of Columbia

    When was the last time you played an important game b4 yesterday's?;) Oooh my bad...everybody keeps cancelling against your sh*t team and Trini decided to play your scraps for practice..lol:D
     
  19. pace8

    pace8 Member

    Aug 17, 2006
    Miami and Montreal
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    Haiti
    And what you posted was the view of 1 supporter also...what is your point? lol
     
  20. pace8

    pace8 Member

    Aug 17, 2006
    Miami and Montreal
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    Haiti
    Umm....who ever said Trinidad fielded an A team? If you could read correctly you would know that I said that Haiti's B team lost to T&T's B team....not A team. Lol your imagining things, you need to cut down on that smoking mon lol
    Anyways warlord was the 1st to defend his ganja boys when they embarased concacaf in Asia by saying they had fielded a B team lol.....well 6 months after cause warlord went in hiding when that happened loll. Always goes in hiding when Jamaica or T&T lose...


    I think you dont know what A and B team means...even if I explain it to you, you probably wont understand so theres no point. Now, believe me, nobody since Jamaica and T&T as giants. Jamaica will get owned in WCQ...youll be lucky to come out of there with 1 point...everyone says that. T&t have a better chance of going though even if they are slim.

    Warlord my friend...you take the internet too seriously...that is why you got kicked out of the Jamaican boards. The real Jamaicans on the reggea boyz forum dont like you...does it make you feel better to come here on bigsoccer and insult the haitians? lolll
    Lets see what excuse you come up with now haha
     
  21. Warlord

    Warlord New Member

    Jun 8, 2005
    District of Columbia

    Nope I posted an article from a reporter. Are your eyes lodged inside ur a$$:eek:
     
  22. Warlord

    Warlord New Member

    Jun 8, 2005
    District of Columbia

    That blunt joke is played out like your football team son..lol:D Learn sumthin new. You were never good in football and yea u kno im rite bout that. No one talks about you as a giant in CFU. Never have and never will. Jamaica and Trinidad will be fine. Everyone can say what they like..theyre entitled to their opinion..doesnt mean their rite.;)

    But hey facts are facts and the chances of you gettin knocked out in the semis is alot higher than either team. Now go head and by your Reggaeboyz and Socawarriors shirt and get behind our teams:D
     
  23. MoRado

    MoRado New Member

    Feb 6, 2004
    San José. Costa Rica
    Club:
    Deportivo Saprissa
    Nat'l Team:
    Costa Rica
    warlord stop trolling here
     
  24. pace8

    pace8 Member

    Aug 17, 2006
    Miami and Montreal
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    Haiti
    Ok you are right....Jamaica has a good chance of advancing out of their group...more chances than Haiti. Whatever makes you sleep at night..
     
  25. Warlord

    Warlord New Member

    Jun 8, 2005
    District of Columbia


    Well you did it in '98 and '06. What makes you think its gone be any different now:D

    The closest you will ever get to the WC again is thru one of those two teams if not both. ;)
     

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