Radamel Falcao garcia (r) part V

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  1. Baal88

    Baal88 Member+

    May 10, 2008
    Medellin
    Club:
    Independiente Medellin
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Re: Radamel Falcao Garcia (r) Part IV

    que babosada esa noticia del madrid... jajaja... raya lo ridiculo... es como decir q a belmer aguilar lo quiere comprar el manchester para sustituir a vidic...
     
  2. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Re: Radamel Falcao Garcia (r) Part IV

    u cant compare falcao and CR7 and if he goes to either team he is going to be an understudy for their strikers and our NT needs him in Europe and scoring not in europe and learning how to score while watching real madrid from the bench

    I am a big falcao fan but need to be realistic I dont think he will make it yet at Real or Man U needs to go to a smaller team those r the 2 biggest teams in the world
     
  3. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Re: Radamel Falcao Garcia (r) Part IV

    baboso usd q lo unico q hace es ver los defecrtos de falcao, criticarlo y desearle mal, q tiene de raro q un equipo de europa grande se fije en una de las figuras de uno de los mejores equipos de sudamerica........no estoy dciendo q creea q la noticia sea cierta solo q usd lo unico q hace es hacer comentarios mal intencionados contra falcao y burlarse de el
     
  4. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Re: Radamel Falcao Garcia (r) Part IV

    LAZIO ISNT SHIT COMPARED TO REAL OR MAN U !!!

    INTER ISNT SHIT COMPARED TO REAL OR MAN U !!!!

    Lazio was a big team a while ago but there is a huge huge diff between quality between these 2 teams...

    Even Inter Milan would be a good place for Falcao only needs to do better than Adriano to start with Ibra up front(Who is usually hurt) he has a good chance of being 3rd striker and playing every game at least 20 minutes

    When u say Man U or Real u think the 2 best teams in teh world in the best leagues in the world that win just about eveyr other year..... Lazio has been crap for the past few years its a huge diff in quality, same thing with Juventus who is rebuilding and a player like Falcao will go as a super star signing..... at Real Falcao will go as a sub to promising player

    both of these team rumors r bs... guys
     
  5. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Re: Radamel Falcao Garcia (r) Part IV

    este m,an tiene un complejo con los juagdores bnos, ofia a los argentinos, cristiano y a falcao jajajaseguramanete al unico q admira es a su mencionada belemer aguilar
     
  6. Baal88

    Baal88 Member+

    May 10, 2008
    Medellin
    Club:
    Independiente Medellin
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Re: Radamel Falcao Garcia (r) Part IV

    a los argentinos por arrogantes a cristiano por pechofrio (si hizo 42 goles fue gracias al pedazo de equipo q lo respalda) y a falcao por sobrevalorado... y de hecho puse a belmer aguilar lo puse porq es un malandro como su idolo... y si critique a falcao ya lo hice y no lo pienso volver a hacer y siempre defendi su mentalidad... pero con un fanatico como usted simplemente no se puede discutir...
     
  7. k1000o

    k1000o New Member

    Dec 6, 2007
    Bogota
    Re: Radamel Falcao Garcia (r) Part IV

    like i said, if you read correctly......"which is what this rumour is really about"

    nothing more than that, you read into it a comparison and that we think this or that about falcao and the said clubs

    ps, real madrid is puff, don't fall for money...with all those stars they should have won every year in spain (like manunited does year in and year out) but somehow......they don't, and don't tell it is bc of the quality in la liga
     
  8. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Re: Radamel Falcao Garcia (r) Part IV

    cristiano malo jajajaj q man tan loco disque, baal yo no soy fanatico solo q percibo de usd, q siempre q hay un juagdor q todos aclaman y quieren usd le busca sus defectos, tipico de alguien resentido como va decir q ronaldo metio los goles solo por sus compañeros, ¿ ha visto algun partido de crtistiano ? y por q cuando no juega cristiano el manchester no rinde tanto?...................estoy seguro q es de los envidiosos q decian q beckham llego lejos por publicidad y no tiene nada de talento.
     
  9. Baal88

    Baal88 Member+

    May 10, 2008
    Medellin
    Club:
    Independiente Medellin
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Re: Radamel Falcao Garcia (r) Part IV

    si claro... entonces quienes son los q lo respaldan? rooney, tevez, carrick, evra, hargreaves, scholes, giggs... si, muy malos los jugadores q tiene a su lado, no? ademas es muy poco practico... este año ya se va a ganar el balon de oro porq quien mas pero eso no quita el hecho de q es un pechofrio...
     
  10. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Re: Radamel Falcao Garcia (r) Part IV

    the quality of england, spain and italy make it so the same team doesnt win every year like in France(7x lyon), Portugal(5x porto), Holand(5x ajax), or germany (bayern wins for like 5 years loses 1 and then wins 2-3 more)

    And Real didnt win because Barca had the 2 best players in the world in form with Messi and Dinho and Eto at striker.......
     
  11. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Re: Radamel Falcao Garcia (r) Part IV

    cuando ronaldo no juega se nota q al manchester le hace mucha falta, y tambn le falto mencionar anderson, a nani, a rio sin duda es un equipazo, pero usd siempre tarta de verle defectos a toda la gente admirada, a q cuando habla de maradona lo unico q menciona es sobre su consumo de drogas, siempre trata de infravalorar a la gente
     
  12. k1000o

    k1000o New Member

    Dec 6, 2007
    Bogota
    Re: Radamel Falcao Garcia (r) Part IV

    in the last ten years man u have gotten:

    6 premier leagues
    5 english cups,
    2 champions league,
    1 uefa cup,
    1 european supercup,
    1 intercontinental world club cup

    real madrid in the past 10 years:

    4 la liga
    2 champions league
    2 copa del rey


    one is better than the other in the past 10 years, can you see which one?

    real is puff as is la liga
     
  13. Baal88

    Baal88 Member+

    May 10, 2008
    Medellin
    Club:
    Independiente Medellin
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Re: Radamel Falcao Garcia (r) Part IV

    bueno pues... si... acepto q le busco los defectos porq sus virtudes ya son bastante conocidas no? no solo le puedes ver lo bueno a todo... todo tiene sus pros y sus contras... no solo puedes decir lo bueno de la gente... dinos tambien lo q hace o tiene mal... y si es cierto q al manchester le hara falta ronaldo y le hace falta cuando no juega... pero no es un jugador del q no se pueda prescindir...
     
  14. SoyDelMustang

    SoyDelMustang Member+

    Dec 24, 2007
    Flushing,Queens
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Re: Radamel Falcao Garcia (r) Part IV

    This crap is pissing me off, i wish he can just get a real offer and leave River.enough of this Man U or Real rumors. He had the chance to go to Deportivo and didnt take it. Im almost certain that hes going to stay in River. Its not like he wants to leave. didnt he say he wanted to stay a long time there.
     
  15. k1000o

    k1000o New Member

    Dec 6, 2007
    Bogota
    Re: Radamel Falcao Garcia (r) Part IV

    to be honest, i think simeone is completely recreating river plate

    already the transfer list of first players is incredibly long and this is somewhat to do with the ortega saga

    falcao will definately leave as this will alow simeone to reinvent the team more to his liking with whatever he gets from falcao and others


    this was his plan from the start and now he has the confidence of the directors of river even more than when he first came on

    i would not sweat the falcao move, the question is where and personally, even if it just a rumour, falcao's move to any club will still see him playing second fiddle to already existing players

    tevez, when he came to WEST HAM was a sub and had to work hard to win first team

    it will not matter if falcao goes to some small team or a big team, he will be subbed until he can prove himself
     
  16. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Re: Radamel Falcao Garcia (r) Part IV

    si yo tmabn, conozco muchos defectos de los mencionados, por jemplo se q cristiano es un individualista una mamaera, q falcao muy rar vez se saca a alguien, q maradon es una mal ejemplo pa el deprote, q macenlly es irregular y juega cuando se le da la gana, q wason es displicente, pero yo siempre tratoo de hablar de las cosas bnas de ellos pa crear un buen ambiente y sentir satisaffaccion, vea le pongo este ejemplo: usd sabe de todos los problemas q tiene colombia, con su " violencia y su narcotrafico pero todos sabemos q tiene mil cosas mas buenas y es lo mejor q hay, pero me va decir q no le da rabia q muchos extranjeros solo hablan de las cosas malas y noi se imutan a decir una cosa positiva, y seguramente como a mi eso lo pone triste y desearia q ono fuera asi, pero si uno actua asi en la vida es como dificil q la situacion cambie............creame q todos aca son conscientes de las cosas mals de nuestros juagdores favoritos o nuestras pertenencias, pero en mi caso yo trato de no mecionar los defectos pa no amargarme, uno siempre tiene q ver la vida del lado positivo y no andarse quejando de los problemas, si no encantarse con cualquier cosa pequeña, y se lo digo por q yo he estado m uy cerca de la muerte y se q la vida es solo una sola, ps trate de mencionar las cosas mals cuando sea necesario.
     
  17. andaos

    andaos New Member

    Mar 27, 2008
    Re: Radamel Falcao Garcia (r) Part IV

    rep! exactly like k100 said falcao is going to have to prove his worth before playing starter so it doesn't matter where he goes.
     
  18. GavoCol

    GavoCol Member

    May 12, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Re: Radamel Falcao Garcia (r) Part IV

    en los ultimos 10 años, ademas de los 4 titulos de liga, tiene 3 champions (97-98, 99-00, y 2001-02).

    ademas en los ultimos 10 años rela madrid no has ganado ninguna copa del rey, ha ganado dos veces la supercopa de españa (2001 y 2003).

    1 copa intercontinental (2002 contra olimpia si no me equivoco) y una supercopa de europa (2002 contra el feyenoord)

    en total hay 11 titulos, conte la champions del 97-98 ya que el titulo lo gano en el 98
     
  19. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Re: Radamel Falcao Garcia (r) Part IV

    Eh....That's a gross over simplification. It absolutely matters where he goes. With the money River is demanding for Falcao, he will either be a big signing at a big club or a huge signing at a mid-table club looking to make a move.

    He'll surely have to prove his worth in order to stay on the pitch, but there is no way to compare the playing opportunities a new signing faces at Real Madrid or Man U with those he might face at an aspiring mid-table club like a Depor. The top three sides in the big European leagues have more players (that are usually more talented) than the rest of their competitors.

    The example of Tevez at West Ham is a clear outlier because his coach there simply didn't know what he was doing - and was later criticized by every pundit and fan for misusing a prodigious talent like Carlitos, it almost cost them descent into the Championship. I can quite easily see Falcao arriving at any number of midtable European sides and having an impact - it depends a lot on the amount of preseason he has to adapt and how well the coaches prepare him for the transition, but he's definitely got the talent.

    Either way, Falcao was interviewed today by Argentine radio and openly stated that there have been no formal bids since the close of the season.
     
  20. k1000o

    k1000o New Member

    Dec 6, 2007
    Bogota
    Re: Radamel Falcao Garcia (r) Part IV

    et al, what kind of coach do you think he will have at a midtable club?....if what you are thinking is that falcao will go to europe and automatically not have to face competition at a smaller club, then perhaps you have been watching river plate for a bit too long....the guy will have to do more than pray at any club, and he will face time on the bench


    lest of course you would have him go to a club that is relegation bound, o yeah, like coruña, ehre they have little to no money and desperately play their big signing like pundits of a cheap novel
     
  21. andaos

    andaos New Member

    Mar 27, 2008
    Re: Radamel Falcao Garcia (r) Part IV

    not what i meant............ it does matter where he goes but i am trying to say that he is going to have to fight for a starter place.
     
  22. k1000o

    k1000o New Member

    Dec 6, 2007
    Bogota
    Re: Radamel Falcao Garcia (r) Part IV

    luis fabiano came to porto only to be booed by the portuguese and subbed for for a great deal of his first season and sold to sevilla as a "we can rip off sevilla" sell

    kanoute at west ham was misappreciated and also was badly managed by the then (and still) mediocre management

    two examples, per se, of on the one hand being subbed and on the other hand bad management in midtable clubs



    you can look at la coruña as "the relevation of the second half of last season", sure this is one way of looking at it.....another would be that they crashed so badly that they had to improve.... this type of performance does not go away in one season....expect a repeat!
     
  23. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Re: Radamel Falcao Garcia (r) Part IV

    You're argument is based on playing time, right? That an irrational midtable coach is going to bench Falcao just for the heck of it...Then neither of these examples hold up either.

    Well despite being booed or under appreciated Luis Fabiano started at Sevilla, and Kanoute started at West Ham. They each had opportunities. When you consider Luis Fabiano, you have to appreciate the context that he was coming off of a poor season at Porto, had previous had a miserable experience at Rennes early in his career, and yet he still did get opportunities to play at Sevilla - in this case, his coach was playing him and giving him a shot despite a lot of fan complaints at his early form - Fabuloso, if anything, is an example of a midtable coach doing the right thing when he recognizes talent. Kanoute - at Spurs and with the Hammers - got plenty of playing time.

    On Depor, sorry, but any team that recovers from relegation zone in December to finishing near-Europe without adding significant talent or changing managers is a revelation to me.
     
  24. k1000o

    k1000o New Member

    Dec 6, 2007
    Bogota
    Re: Radamel Falcao Garcia (r) Part IV

    these are not my words, they are yours....you will not find anything in my claims to support your analysis of me

    to me there are never automatic starters, i do not care how talented you may think a player is

    also, i think that falcao is one of the most talented colombians but i certainly do not think he is a god or should be placed on some sort of pedestal

    falcao's record at river is impressive but he is one of many with similar records around the world

    there will be a transitional period no matter what club he goes to


    ps 9th place in la liga is not "near europe", not even close....this is the view of a fan, but not of the team as a fact
     
  25. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Re: Radamel Falcao Garcia (r) Part IV

    Who is analysing you? I disagree with the point you made, in plain English:

    Obviously, every player has to prove himself to get minutes on any team and I haven't said otherwise (No one on this thread has said that Falcao will walk onto any XI in Europe, btw). However, you're assertion that Falcao will play second fiddle to the current starter of any club he joins is ridiculous. First, because there is a big difference between coming off the bench while one adapts to a new team/league and being someone's second fiddle. Second, because it preassumes that Falcao with a healthy preseason is incapable of winning a starting role on a European squad. Third, because there are many European sides (some relegation battlers, others in the midtable) where he could likely get starting minutes quite quickly.

    Tevez is a poor example to support the argument that every player has to start on the bench when they first move to Europe because everyone knew he was better than the people Pardew was starting ahead of him. A single manager being irrational can't be proof of conventional wisdom. The other examples you gave of Luis Fabiano and Freddy Kanoute don't support your argument further because they are players who came in and got major minutes on their new sides immediately.

    On Coruna, I'm about as far from being a fan of theirs as you can find. They are however playing the Intertoto Cup this summer and still DO have a realistic chance of making Europe based on this last years performance and their great comeback in La Liga. I'm not a Coruna fan, I just took the time to read the league table. And I do think that qualifying into UEFA's qualifying tournament is at its least performing 'NEAR' europe, thanks.
     

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