The Emre Racism Accusation(s) Thread

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  1. tigerdave

    tigerdave Member

    Aug 23, 2004
    Buhl, Idaho
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Roeder accused of hypocrisy in race storm

    That's edited for the nuts and bolts of the story, apologies for it being rather long. I'll personally never believe anything the Mail says to be completely true unless I see the same report in another outlet, but this is a serious, serious suggestion in my book and warrants discussion.

    Roeder Statement

    There's a secondary piece, also in the Mail, relating to it.

    Now, as I said before, I tend to take most things in the tabloids with a grain of salt, at least from what I've seen, but other outlets are at least saying that there are 'reports' that this is accurate. They're probably taking the Mail's report and running with it, is what I'd reckon. So read into it whatever you'd like.

    I hope to God GR is telling the truth, I really do, and that everyone's making too much of it. He seems a like-able guy and he's doing a good job at the club for what he has in the senior squad at present.

    That said, if what the Mail reports is true, and that Emre did use a racial epithet and Roeder tried to prevent it from getting to the FA, it is my opinion that both must be sacked immediately.
     
  2. Dirt McGirt

    Dirt McGirt Member+

    Jun 20, 2005
    Phoenix, AZ
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Roeder implicated in racism coverup?

    Well this should be interesting. It sounds like Roeder may have apologized in general not really thinking anything racists was said before the full context of the argument became apparent. I hope this is not true on Roeder's part as for Emre I think he's done if this proves to be true.
     
  3. ToonUSA

    ToonUSA New Member

    Jan 11, 2005
    Re: Roeder implicated in racism coverup?

    Everton have nothing better to do.
     
  4. tigerdave

    tigerdave Member

    Aug 23, 2004
    Buhl, Idaho
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Roeder implicated in racism coverup?

    Here's what I'd like to believe: Roeder apologised because he perceived that Emre started a scuffle. Emre didn't drop the n-word, just swore.

    What I tend to think happened: Emre dropped the n-word, started a fracas, and Roeder apologised because he perceived Emre started a scuffle. Everton told him Emre used the n-word, he asked Emre, Emre said he didn't. In the they-said he-said, he took up for his own player.

    Worst case: Emre said it, Roeder knew it, and tried to 'under-the-rug' it.

    I have a feeling at least one person's getting sacked from this.
     
  5. ToonUSA

    ToonUSA New Member

    Jan 11, 2005
    Re: Roeder implicated in racism coverup?

    Hopefully Emre.
     
  6. Howard Zinn

    Howard Zinn Member

    Aug 9, 2005
    Brookline, MA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Roeder implicated in racism coverup?


    He can just go play in Spain. He'll be a big hit.
     
  7. ToonUSA

    ToonUSA New Member

    Jan 11, 2005
  8. colinh9

    colinh9 New Member

    Apr 26, 2003
    NY
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Re: Roeder implicated in racism coverup?

    Well this is certainly a serious allegation. Do I think anyone will end up sacked? Nope.

    Probably a few matches ban and fine.

    It is just racism after all(relax, I am more than sarcastic here)


    Personally, I think Emre called him the n word. He's a bit of a prick, and has always been in the center of things. Knowing that, despite how good he is, I don't want him on my team.
     
  9. CrewToon

    CrewToon Member

    Jun 13, 1999
    Greenbrier Farm
    Re: Roeder implicated in racism coverup?

    It is hard for me to believe that Roeder knew what Emre said. All of his previous actions have shown that he doesn't cover up things.

    From a practical standpoint, had Roeder heard the statements, he would have sacked Emre on the spot. Plus, he has an abundance of players in midfield - although some are hurt.
     
  10. charlieblanko

    charlieblanko Member

    Dec 8, 2006
    cal south
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Re: Roeder implicated in racism coverup?

    Yeah .."laliga" would welcome him with open arms.
     
  11. Dirt McGirt

    Dirt McGirt Member+

    Jun 20, 2005
    Phoenix, AZ
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Roeder implicated in racism coverup?

    I agree and I'm starting to think that maybe all of this will blow over and Emre might be shuffled out the back door to Bayern this summer.
     
  12. conchobar7

    conchobar7 New Member

    Sep 21, 2005
    Re: Roeder implicated in racism coverup?

    NM,

    the other drivel was way off. I was looking at the wrong charge.
     
  13. tigerdave

    tigerdave Member

    Aug 23, 2004
    Buhl, Idaho
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Roeder implicated in racism coverup?

    I think a mod should just make this the official Emre racism charge thread.

    This on the BBC Rumor page for Monday.

    If that's true, and his whole defense is centered around them misunderstanding what he said, he's hopelessly ********ed irrespective of whether he actually said it.
     
  14. Honore de Ballsac

    Oct 28, 2005
    France.
    Re: Roeder implicated in racism coverup?

    Funny - Roeder comes across as sort of a prick to me.

    Did anybody hear chants of "You black bastard" when Onyewu got headed in the back of his head Saturday?
     
  15. Dirt McGirt

    Dirt McGirt Member+

    Jun 20, 2005
    Phoenix, AZ
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Roeder implicated in racism coverup?

    Really I would find that odd at Fulham.
     
  16. roxbury

    roxbury Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Re: Roeder implicated in racism coverup?

    Turkey boss backs Emre
    continue from -> http://icnewcastle.icnetwork.co.uk/newcastleunited/journalsport/tm_headline=turkey-boss-backs-emre&method=full&objectid=18582569&siteid=50081-name_page.html
     
  17. charlieblanko

    charlieblanko Member

    Dec 8, 2006
    cal south
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
  18. JaredSS07

    JaredSS07 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 6, 2005
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
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    United States
  19. mplsTOON

    mplsTOON Member

    Apr 25, 2006
    @ St James Park
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Re: Roeder implicated in racism coverup?

    Isn't there some kind of statute of limitaions on accusations like these?

    I mean really, Anyone can mine up a "supposed" quote hurled on the pitch 3 months ago that sounds like it could be slightly racist if you really really tried hard enough, even tho the person who alledgedly was on the recieving end of it, is just as much of a scum for other, non alledged, proven reasons?

    Please allow me to become all histrionic and hyperbolic up in this sh*t, but a wife beater accusing someone of racism?

    <gets off of soapbox>
     
  20. conchobar7

    conchobar7 New Member

    Sep 21, 2005
    Re: Roeder implicated in racism coverup?

    Not to mention, he's a serial spitter. Call me what you want, but if you spit on me, we have a major problem.
     
  21. Toon³

    Toon³ Member

    Dec 27, 2002
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Re: Roeder implicated in racism coverup?

    I'm sure El-Hadj ********twatface was so upset by what Emre said that it's taken him this long to get over it.

    The FA is a total joke
     
  22. Dirt McGirt

    Dirt McGirt Member+

    Jun 20, 2005
    Phoenix, AZ
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Roeder implicated in racism coverup?

    Emre can ******** off to Bayern for all I care.
     
  23. ToonUSA

    ToonUSA New Member

    Jan 11, 2005
    Re: Roeder implicated in racism coverup?

    Absolute bollocks. Talk about kicking a man while he's down. :rolleyes:
     
  24. roxbury

    roxbury Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Re: Roeder implicated in racism coverup?

    :rolleyes:

    is this your best shot?.


    ...
     
  25. roxbury

    roxbury Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
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    iwa
     

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