[aloisius]

How about a Brazilians abroad thread? We Europeans could inform you on the progress of players you can’t see often and you could tell us about their status in Brazil

[MIGkiller]

I have already thought about this, but it would be something like an unnecessary waste of work and time. There are thousands of brazilian players making their way in every corner of the globe, in the most unknown leagues to keep track on everyone of them, and the players that really matters to us and make a difference we can find enough news and discussion in the media and other forums/threads.

[MathuzaLem]

I kinda liked this idea!

[AuriVerde]

Excellent idea,mate!

[neovox]

Very good idea! Go on!

[aloisius]

OK, so we can get it on.
B.Leverkusen:
This is probably the best team in Europe at scouting, signing, and integrating Brazilians.
Franca - an amazing turnaround. Total crap last year, excellent this season.
Lucio-at his usual monstrous best
Juan- doing very well alongside Lucio, but his position could be under threat as captain Nowotny is coming back from injury
Robson Ponte- Started the season as the playmaker, but could lose his positions after Basturk’s return.
Borussia Dortmund:
Evanilson- long term injury
Dede- Consistently good, moved up from LB to left mid.
Flavio- About to come back from injury
Amoroso-Out with injury for the next 6 weeks
Ewerton- Starting but not doing very well
I’d like to hear your opinions on the players I post about and their past in Brazil( were they stars, average or not very good)

[MathuzaLem]

well about the players that u posted França was considered one of the best strikers in brazil, he was what luis fabiano is today...

I didn't see many games of lucio playing in internacional...

Juan played in Flamengo, he was kinda ok...

Robson Ponte was a great prospect when he played in guarani...

Evanilson was bad when he played in cruzeiro, and I still don't like him!!

Haven't seen any Dede's game here...

Amoroso when played in guarani was a great player, making great plays with luisão and djalminha!!! Still a great player!

Ewerthon was a hot prospect when played in corinthians! won some titles there!

[MIGkiller]

http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news?slu...=afp&type=lgns

Ailton eyes early Bremen exit


BREMEN, Germany (AFP) - Brazilian striker Ailton has further ignited his feud with Werder Bremen by insisting that his move to Schalke 04 could take place as early as the winter break.

The 30-year-old striker rocked Bremen by signing a contract until 2004 with Schalke to join the Gelsenkirchen club in the summer, when his contract expires, but has now revealed that the move could be brought forward.

"It is not definite that I will stay until the summer," Ailton told the Berliner Morgenpost.

"Perhaps I will leave in the winter. However, that is a matter for the two clubs to decide."

The transfer of Ailton, plus his Bremen team-mate Mladen Kristajic, to Schalke has created bad blood between the two clubs but Ailton does not feel guilty, insisting the Bundesliga leaders did not pay him what he was worth.

I don't remember this guy. Where did he play in Brazil? The only Aílton that I can remember is that revelead by Flamengo in the final 80s, but it was a long time ago. Probably another case of a Brazilian that go into oblivion in Germany.

[Ombak]

On the other hand, Bordon seems to be making a name for himself with Stuttgart.

While he was known before leaving (solid d-mid for São Paulo) he was never national team material was he?

How's he doing now? What position is he playing and does he have a shot at the national team?

[tpmazembe]

Originally posted by MathuzaLem
well about the players that u posted França was considered one of the best strikers in brazil, he was what luis fabiano is today...

Evanilson was bad when he played in cruzeiro, and I still don't like him!!

I agree with you on Franca...I think he lost confidence initially during his move. Has great movement and intelligent passer. Not as physically gifted as Luis Fab, but has a better feel of game (at this stage in Fab's career) IMO

Disagree on Evanilson....he's definetely no Cafu, but IMO better by a mile than Belletti.

Speaking of Right Backs, how about Ze Maria at Perugia. I had forgotten he was still playing top flight footy. I hear he is doing so well in Italy several of the bigger clubs are after him. Does he deserve another shot at Selecao?