[robledo]

long article so just posted a snippet (link below)

When Marcell Jansen suddenly left Bayern in late August, rumor had it that the ex-Gladbach left-back had had a row with new coach Juergen Klinsmann. According to the rumor, Jansen was told that he had no place in Klinsmann’s squad, a statement that prompted him to lash out against the the Bayern management, calling Bayern a place where young talent needlessly goes to waste. At Klinsmann’s request, manager Uli Hoeness promptly made a deal with Hamburg and Bayern fans awoke on the morning of August 27 with news that their team’s starting left-back had transferred to HSV. It is true that any youngster will have a difficult time breaking into the Bayern starting eleven, but is there legitimacy to Jansen’s statements?

http://www.goal.com/en/news/592/baye...r-german-youth

[Borussia]

Well, it seems that nowadays the big money & winning titles is more important for many young talents than playing regularly ... elsewise I can't explain another move from a huge Gladbach talent to Munich next summer (Alex Baumjohann).

[Projekt4]

Clark Whitney's articles are a saving grace for goal.com. Thanks for posting this here, haven't been to that website for quite a while.

[hackespitze123]

While we don't learn anything new from that article, all apects of it have been discussed here and elsewhere repeatedly over the years, it's a good summary of something that has become a very annoying obstacle in the development of young German talent. And it's good to have this issue in the international media, and not just domestic.

While everything written in it is true, we should not forget one important fact: Nobody is forced to play for Bayern. After the numerous examples of young talent (actually not just German talent) wasting their time there, promising young players simply should know better. Nowadays, it's simply their own fault if they decide to move there at a very young age, believing the false promises and their greedy agents.

One has to feel sorry for Bayern's own youth though. Bayern's youth setup is actually very good, Gerland is doing a very good job there, but for all those promising youngsters, it'll be rather unlikely to make it to the senior squad, or become starters even. For most of them, the sooner they leave, the better.

["Eisenfuß" Eilts]

What has the Jansen case to do with German youth developement?

The coached planned with another player , who is also not so old (Lahm).
So i don´t see any connection between the first part of the article
and its headline.

[footyfan1]

Originally Posted by hackespitze123

While we don't learn anything new from that article, all apects of it have been discussed here and elsewhere repeatedly over the years, it's a good summary of something that has become a very annoying obstacle in the development of young German talent. And it's good to have this issue in the international media, and not just domestic.

While everything written in it is true, we should not forget one important fact: Nobody is forced to play for Bayern. After the numerous examples of young talent (actually not just German talent) wasting their time there, promising young players simply should know better. Nowadays, it's simply their own fault if they decide to move there at a very young age, believing the false promises and their greedy agents.

One has to feel sorry for Bayern's own youth though. Bayern's youth setup is actually very good, Gerland is doing a very good job there, but for all those promising youngsters, it'll be rather unlikely to make it to the senior squad, or become starters even. For most of them, the sooner they leave, the better.

Once again, you've said it all.

[Rainer24]

I don't think it's really anything unique to Bayern. It is that way with pretty much any club that can financially dominate all other sides in their league. Chelsea has had plenty of guys on their books who either rarely or never see/saw the pitch at Stamford Bridge, but who could have all along been playing regularly and developing at any number of other clubs in the league.

Sometimes these guys just need to be more realistic when they are signing a contract. A team like Bayern can afford to buy someone with the idea that if he does show talent, they will have first dibs, but not necessarily have any intention of playing the guy anytime soon. It certainly can stifle development, so I don't know why they don't just loan some of these guys out instead of selling them outright or letting them rot on the bench.

[96wirdMeister]

Bastian Schweinsteiger made it! So Bayern can not be "German Youth's pitfall" in every case.

[Equilibrium]

I think if Bayern loaned more players more often, we would be one of the most successful clubs at raising youngsters. We aren't terrible like media makes it out to be, hyped up talent has failed in other clubs in Germany bar Bayern. The difference is Bayern will buy more of these hyped up players, and more will fail at Bayern due to this.

[squidward123]

Originally Posted by Rainer24

Sometimes these guys just need to be more realistic when they are signing a contract. A team like Bayern can afford to buy someone with the idea that if he does show talent, they will have first dibs, but not necessarily have any intention of playing the guy anytime soon. It certainly can stifle development, so I don't know why they don't just loan some of these guys out instead of selling them outright or letting them rot on the bench.

Exactly!!!!@@!$#

And in the case of Kroos :
It also doesn't help when Hoeness hypes him up initially to a very high level himself.