[Media Man]

Here’s the buzz… as the thread says, fun - but probably not all true.


(1) Dallas will offer Toronto the #11 pick and Adrian Serioux for the #2 pick. Dallas would like Omar Gonzalez at #2 and Kevin Alston at #5.

(2) If Dallas fails with Toronto, they will offer #5, #18 and Dax McCarty to Seattle for the #1 overall pick.

(3) Chicago will offer un-settled Wilman Conde to Toronto for the #2 pick in the draft, and then select Omar Gonzalez. Then use Conde’s salary and International spot for a transfer signing.

(4) Hearing that TFC would like to deal picks for players, Real Salt Lake has gauged Toronto’s interest in Canadian International Will Johnson in exchange for the #4 pick. RSL would target Marcus Tracy.

(5) New England is interested in trading up from #10 for Jeremy Hall (to replace Khano Smith).

(6) Toronto has asked Los Angeles about Ante Jazic for the #13 pick.

(7) Chivas USA has inquired about Red Bull New York’s second DP spot (which they got from Chivas in the first place). Chivas are floating multiple players and the #9 pick in the draft.

(8) San Jose will offer Chivas USA the #32 pick and minor allocation $ for the MLS rights to out-of-contract (and oft-injured) Ante Razov.

(9) New England has gauged Colorado’s interest in trading out-of-favor Christian Gomez for the #15 pick. 2009 is the last year of his deal with MLS.

(10) Seattle is asking MLS to sign out-of-contract Joseph Ngwenya, so they can take him in the allocation draft.

[Baysider]

Originally Posted by Media Man

(6) Toronto has asked Los Angeles about Ante Jazic for the #13 pick.

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Interesting stuff! Where's it from? The latest rumor from 3rd degree is that Tracy is going to Europe That seriously knocks down the value of the third pick.

[Media Man]

Originally Posted by Baysider

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Interesting stuff! Where's it from? The latest rumor from 3rd degree is that Tracy is going to Europe That seriously knocks down the value of the third pick.

All over the place. Some credible, some not remotely credible. It is just fun to read the speculation.

Here's what I've heard on Tracy --- MLS came in with a mid-level, 5-figure/year deal (like the one with Lahoud). Tracy would like to make the 6-figure/year money that some generation adidas players land.

His offers from Europe are trials - which don't guarantee anything.

[PhillyMLS]

Originally Posted by Media Man

Here's what I've heard on Tracy --- MLS came in with a mid-level, 5-figure/year deal (like the one with Lahoud). Tracy would like to make the 6-figure/year money that some generation adidas players land.

If that is the case expect MLS to tell him to pound sand and have fun in Europe. They reserve the 6 figure salaries for GA signings because they want it to be an incentive to come out early, develop more, and be sold for more money. Staying in school for the full 4 years kills your value to MLS (so, the exact opposite of the real world). To give him that would set a bad precedence that MLS won't want to deal with. He'll go to Europe and either pull a Charlie Davies and thrive or a Mike Videira and be back in a year or two and making near the league minimum.

[Media Man]

Originally Posted by PhillyMLS

If that is the case expect MLS to tell him to pound sand and have fun in Europe. They reserve the 6 figure salaries for GA signings because they want it to be an incentive to come out early, develop more, and be sold for more money. Staying in school for the full 4 years kills your value to MLS (so, the exact opposite of the real world). To give him that would set a bad precedence that MLS won't want to deal with. He'll go to Europe and either pull a Charlie Davies and thrive or a Mike Videira and be back in a year or two and making near the league minimum.

Totally agree with all you said, but you forgot the third option... pull a Baggio Husidic and publicly say that he wants nothing to do with MLS, only to sign the deal they originally offered.

There's a big difference with this guy in comparison to Charlie Davies - who had international exposure before coming out of BC. I'm not totally convinced Tracy has demand abroad.

[PhillyMLS]

Originally Posted by Media Man

Totally agree with all you said, but you forgot the third option... pull a Baggio Husidic and publicly say that he wants nothing to do with MLS, only to sign the deal they originally offered.

There's a big difference with this guy in comparison to Charlie Davies - who had international exposure before coming out of BC. I'm not totally convinced Tracy has demand abroad.

Well Baggio is a GA signing so he will make more than Tracy in MLS. The reason Davies left is that he wanted a larger GA deal than was being offered (think Freddy Adu sized) and the league said no.

Tracy is assuming that his skill will be able to get him a much better paying deal. Problem is that he spent 4 years in college. He has no pro resume to back up his claims when he goes to Europe. He is already 22 years old so he has to prove to a team he is ready to start now or be ready in a year because he is too old to be looked at as a prospect. Very few 4 year college players go over to Europe and make a good deal of money. It can happen but is rare for them to succeed.

[shirteesdotnet]

All of that while our beloved Alexi Lalas slams another Red Bull.

[Baysider]

Ives reported a possible trade between Toronto, Dallas and an unnamed third team. That might be us.

I'm not sure how it would work but it might involve Jazic and Serioux to Toronto, Dax to LA, Toronto's pick at #2 to Dallas, our #3 to Toronto, Dallas's #5 and #13 to us, Toronto's #13 to us, plus something to Dallas.

I'm not even sure if all that adds up , but it would be a blockbuster!

[Media Man]

Originally Posted by Baysider

Ives reported a possible trade between Toronto, Dallas and an unnamed third team. That might be us.

I'm not sure how it would work but it might involve Jazic and Serioux to Toronto, Dax to LA, Toronto's pick at #2 to Dallas, our #3 to Toronto, Dallas's #5 and #13 to us, Toronto's #13 to us, plus something to Dallas.

I'm not even sure if all that adds up , but it would be a blockbuster!

Okay... back with some news...

Rumor is plausible. Here’s the skinny from my mole…

(1) Mo Johnston (Toronto GM) called Mike Hitchcock (Dallas GM) and offered the #2 pick for Adrian Serioux. Dallas rejected that deal.

(2) Johnston called Hitchcock again and asked if Dallas would be willing to include Adrian Serioux and the #5 pick in a trade that would land Dallas the #2 pick and Eddie Lewis. Hitchcock confirmed they would consider that deal.

(3) Johnston called Arena and offered a three-way deal. The #2 pick and Eddie Lewis go to Dallas. Adrian Serioux and Ante Jazic go to Toronto. The #4 and #5 picks go to Los Angeles. Arena rejected the deal immediately.


If true, I congratulate Arena. That is a great deal for Dallas and Toronto, and terrible deal for LAG.

What makes this rumor plausible is that Mike Hitchcock and Schellas Hyndman have gone on record saying that Dallas is pursuing a left winger within the league (thought to be Hyndman’s SMU boy Colin Clark), and TFC have gone on record saying they would like veteran players in exchange for their draft picks.

[dmhines]

anyone think toronto would take our #3 pick and jazic for the #2 pick? from a galaxy perspective it would be a good deal, and i also think it would be good for toronto.

thoughts?