[JRedknapp11]

As much as like the Polish keeper... I think there are better suitors out there. Keep him here for his contract and then see what the transfer market has. I'd really like to see Kirkland get his chances as well or even poor old Peggy.
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[655321]

I'm not doubting the abilities of Arphexad or Kirkland...but I think Dudek is the obvious first choice. He's a fantastic keeper that has been nothing but greatness for Liverpool. What reason could you possibly have for starting Peggy over Jersey??

[JRedknapp11]

Don't get me wrong...Dudek is fantastic. He has more then proved his worth for us and his skills have been world class well before his Anfield arrival.

However, I don't think we should jump the gun and sign him for any longer then 2003/04. Kirkland should be used a little more then last year...hopefully as a cup goalie for the FA or League Cup. Peggy is just Peggy and as much as I respect the lad for sitting on his hands for this long, I think we should at the very least loan him out. Reserve matches aren't going to cut it, at least one of those guys needs to be playing in a real atmosphere for awhile... ya know keep them warm and ready.

Dudek is our man and I have no problems for now with him. I just think that we should keep Dudek for his contract that he has signed and then when it's up see who is available to possibly over take Dudek. Right now Dudek is #1 and has no competition in sight, at least with Gerard waiting awhile to sign an extension Dudek has some sort of motivation sitting above him.

Again quality keeper but we just need to keep all of our options open.... who knows maybe Grobbler will make yet another comeback.

[655321]

Yea, Peggy should definitely be loaned out. I can't see a chance in hell that he'll play in any competition this year, bar a flu virus going around. He obviously has skills, but I just can't think about him without thinking about that near goal against Stoke City in the FA Cup in the treble season when he almost whiffed a clearance.

[Matt Clark]

Arphexad was loaned out to Stockport last season, but now that both Jorgen Nielsen and Sander Westerveld are no longer about, we need three keepers. The problem with loaning out your third choice is that you would have to add a recall clause to his loan deal - but a club (like, for instance, Stockport) is not going to take a player on Premiership wages on loan if they run the risk of losing him at the drop of a hat - bearing in mind that any such deal would be with the aim of playing him as first choice, regularly. Last season Dudek and Kirkland both got injured and he was in, so we can’t run the risk of a non-recall loan deal.

Clubs have three keepers. Two spend most of their time on the bench. Twas ever thus. Although now, of course, we have that young Italian lad as well, so maybe he will be the one to go out on loan.

As to not signing Dudek on again, that makes no sense. If we just let his contract run down, what’s to stop him from leaving at any point? These days, a renewed contract is little more than a re-affirmation of the present one. It doesn’t mean they actually extend their time at the club per se (although that may well be how it turns out). As things stand, we have one of the best keepers in the world signed up - protecting that asset is just good sense. We need to do that with all our top players - GH has the stated policy of making every player with 2 years or less on their contracts either sign on again or ship out. A prudent measure, these days.

[LiverpoolFanatic]

Dudek has 12 clean sheets in his last 15 matches. I'd say that's reason enough to sign him long term.

[Lanky134]

I was at the two matches Kirkland played last year (Galatasaray and Everton) and, while Kirkland made a few good saves (mostly during the Galatasaray match) I don't think he's ready to challenge Jerzy yet. He was very hesitant about distribution, which is a very underrated aspect of goalkeeping. About four or five times he stepped up to punt or throw the ball, only to stop and think about what he was about to do. I also usually worry about big keepers (6'3 and over) because they're usually vulnerable on low shots to the near post. Think of how many times Sander got beat there.

Dave

[JRedknapp11]

I know we can knock Sander for those easy one's but for my money I would rather have him in net then Dudek.

[Matt Clark]

Blimey ...

This must feel like I am victimising you (three posts, three disagreeing posts in return ... sorry! ) but how on earth can you say that? Jerzy Dudek is one of the very top keepers in the world. The very top. Sander Westerveld was only marginally better than James, when all is said and done - he just didn't have the baggage that five years playing behind Babb and Co lumbered Jamo with. Sandra made a similar number of howlers on average, he was as immobile as James when confronted with shots he's not sure about saving and his positioning was worse than Friedel's, which is saying quite something.

When he arrived, his professional attitude and clean slate made him appear a better option than James and, on balance and for those reasons, he probably was. But Dudek is another mighty step forward in that progressive evolution of talent. He is ten times better than Sander Westerveld will EVER be.

[kopiteinkc]

Originally posted by JRedknapp11
I know we can knock Sander for those easy one's but for my money I would rather have him in net then Dudek.

Did you see the Bolton match last year? Sander? No thanks!

Dudek may have had a poor world cup but his play for the Reds has been exemplary. I admit he could do better on some crosses, a little too quick to punch. But he doesn't commit major mistakes like Sander did.

I think I would trust GH's judgement on this one.