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17 Aug 2002, 01:11 PM
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Noel Kenny - political move or not
Was the decision to remove him from the pool political or was his performance in the DC V KC match really THAT bad.
If it was a political move (catering to the players and coaches), I feel that anyone assigned to do a MLS game should refuse. For the good of the game, MLS need to learn play by the laws, not how they want to interpret them.
Is this not the second time in a few weeks that MLS has sided with the players against a referee decision?
In case you haven't read about the decision here is the link to the MLSNET page
http://www.mlsnet.com/content/02/mls0815conduct.html
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17 Aug 2002, 01:46 PM
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I doubt it. Every referee at that level is assessed at every game. His performances were failing. I don't think it's any different from any other profession (except, perhaps, civil service).
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17 Aug 2002, 05:29 PM
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Re: Noel Kenny - political move or not
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Originally posted by pacref
Was the decision to remove him from the pool political or was his performance in the DC V KC match really THAT bad.
If it was a political move (catering to the players and coaches), I feel that anyone assigned to do a MLS game should refuse. For the good of the game, MLS need to learn play by the laws, not how they want to interpret them.
Is this not the second time in a few weeks that MLS has sided with the players against a referee decision?
In case you haven't read about the decision here is the link to the MLSNET page
http://www.mlsnet.com/content/02/mls0815conduct.html
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So do you think he should be untouchable??? If he sucked he knew that he would face the consequences. I would be interested in hearing about some details of the game. As a side note I watched about 10 minutes of the soccer saturday match with chicago and Hristo Stoichkoff HIT the referee with a shot on goal. ANYONE can make a mistake but it was not a quick break situation and the reff put himself in a bad spot AND he almost got hit less then five minutes later. Wonder if he passed.
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17 Aug 2002, 06:46 PM
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I posted the details, from my perspective, of the game in the other thread about encroaching on PKs.
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19 Aug 2002, 01:14 AM
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Part political move, cause there was quite a ruckus, but there was no denying that Noel sucked. If you fail one assessment you've got problems, so he deserved to be booted.
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19 Aug 2002, 01:37 AM
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Re: Noel Kenny - political move or not
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Originally posted by pacref
Was the decision to remove him from the pool political or was his performance in the DC V KC match really THAT bad.
If it was a political move (catering to the players and coaches), I feel that anyone assigned to do a MLS game should refuse. For the good of the game, MLS need to learn play by the laws, not how they want to interpret them.
Is this not the second time in a few weeks that MLS has sided with the players against a referee decision?
In case you haven't read about the decision here is the link to the MLSNET page
http://www.mlsnet.com/content/02/mls0815conduct.html
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Please note Kenny was in part removed because he asked to be. That should tell you what he thought of his own performance.
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19 Aug 2002, 01:53 AM
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Re: Re: Noel Kenny - political move or not
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Please note Kenny was in part removed because he asked to be. That should tell you what he thought of his own performance.
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Or possibly something about his personal life. Not many of us will ever know the exact details, so we should probably take the underlying reason (his 2 failed assessments) on face value.
That being said, I think the publicity about the move is meant as a political appeasement to fans. There was no such press release--as far as I can recall--when another referee was "suspended" earlier this year. And there certainly haven't been any in past years, even though over half a dozen referees have been removed from the pool over the past few years.
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23 Aug 2002, 09:23 AM
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Re: Re: Noel Kenny - political move or not
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Please note Kenny was in part removed because he asked to be. That should tell you what he thought of his own performance.
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He asked to, but he also recieved two failing grades, so he would have been removed regardless.
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25 Aug 2002, 12:32 PM
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"Asked to be removed"? This is like when a coach who comes in last place resigns.
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29 Aug 2002, 12:14 AM
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Noel Kenny - political move or not
It's sort of aggrevating that MLS picks out only certain controversial calls to "explain" and pass judgement on. I've seen nearly every televised game this season and IMO there's no referree that has more to explain, or should have more failing assessments, than the two Kevins, especially Terry. It sure feels like there's a lot of politics going on.
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