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15 Aug 2002, 04:29 PM
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Kirovski and the EPL
Kirovski has gotten himself in a great position playing for a manager that believes in him and in one of the top leagues in the world.
Just curious as to the general feeling about how he will turn out? I think this is very likely to boost him into a position to remain on the national team and he could possibly be much better in 2006 than in 2002.
Will he float or sink in the EPL?
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15 Aug 2002, 04:35 PM
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I'm hoping that he'll prove me wrong, and will demonstrate the ability that so far has proven to be little more than a myth.
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15 Aug 2002, 04:50 PM
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Hard to say. It is also tough to imagine a better situation for Jovan. This is really his sink or swim chance. If he can't cut it in the Premiership on a newly promoted team with a coach that loves him; he will show himself to absolutely not be good enough to play at Premiership level.
His competition for playing time should be realitively low compared to most Premiership teams and he's got an in with the head man to start with. All in all, I think he will likely do fairly well. I can't see him lighting up the league, but I imagine he'll earn a lot of time on the field. His coach will know better than to rely on him to play much defense or score too many goals, and in a limited role I figure he'll hold his own.
I think the bigger question for his international future is whether or not Birmingham stay up. if they hang around for a few years, it could be good news for Jovan's internationally. It would be very hard indeed to ignore a solid starting Premiership player when making out a US roster. If they go right back down, his Premiership experience will be a three year old memory by the time the next World Cup comes around and he'll just be another guy hanging around the lower Euro divisions as he was this cycle.
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15 Aug 2002, 06:24 PM
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Kirovski should have a sour taste in his mouth about missing World Cups 2002 and 1998. If he doesn't have the hunger now, he will never have it.
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15 Aug 2002, 07:17 PM
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You have to remember that he plays in one of the most difficult position in the world--Withdrawn forward and attacking midfielder.
How many teams will let a young kid to lead their attack? No way, especially if you're from America. He got screwed by not getting work permit in Man. U. because he is one of their own (like JOB in Ajax) so he may get the trust to work his way out. I don't know why he didn't get enough help from US NAT to get those meaningless friendly numbers--like what Cobi did.
I think this is Javan's second chance. He did his first one in Crystal Palace and passed the test.
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15 Aug 2002, 07:23 PM
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Originally posted by Shaster
How many teams will let a young kid to lead their attack? No way, especially if you're from America. He got screwed by not getting work permit in Man. U. because he is one of their own (like JOB in Ajax) so he may get the trust to work his way out. I don't know why he didn't get enough help from US NAT to get those meaningless friendly numbers--like what Cobi did.
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Cobi was in the states and was easily available for all those meaningless friendlies. Kirovski was 3000+ miles plus an ocean away from the states and not quite as readily available to play in all those games.
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15 Aug 2002, 08:09 PM
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Keep in mind that the 75% is for the "A" competitive matches--qualifiers, FIFA tournaments, World Cups, etc, only.
No friendlies enter the equation.
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21 Aug 2002, 08:09 PM
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A reality check for Jovan Kirovsky
Well he is making money....Good for him, about him on the USA NATIONAL TEAM?? Bruce Arena have give him all the chances to prove himself but to be on the national team, he does not have the COJONES nor the skills to run with the WOLVES
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21 Aug 2002, 10:46 PM
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Kirovski should have a sour taste in his mouth about missing World Cups 2002 and 1998. If he doesn't have the hunger now, he will never have it.
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You hit the nail on the head. He's got the money, the EU passport(Portugues wife, great credence to Nutmeg's belief that they're nice and easy  ), and now he's in the Premiership like he always wanted to be. It's all up to him now and staying free of injury.
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21 Aug 2002, 11:02 PM
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Re: A reality check for Jovan Kirovsky
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Originally posted by whip
Well he is making money....Good for him, about him on the USA NATIONAL TEAM?? Bruce Arena have give him all the chances to prove himself but to be on the national team, he does not have the COJONES nor the skills to run with the WOLVES
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Wolverhampton plays in the 1st Division, so he won't be playing them anyway.
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