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02 Aug 2003, 05:37 PM
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Why do you play two championships a year in Argetina?
And who then qualifies for the Copa Libertadores? What formats are used in other S. Smerican countries(except Brasil)?
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02 Aug 2003, 06:05 PM
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The demand for the game is unquenchible first off. The local championships and libertadores have been playing multiple championships for 100 years now. Libertadores being older than any european tournament the 1st int tournament. Simply why play in an international game? Because it is global. The top 5 teams from every country in SA play each other a home and away game to make it fair. Everyone in SA participates. So every body is SA plays more than two actually. the winner of Lbertadores plays the winner of the UEFA cup so now Boca Juniors and AC Milan face each other for the intercontinental title in December of this year in japan.
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02 Aug 2003, 06:11 PM
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I can talk about brazil = too many teams and like 3 tournaments, BIG COUNTRY
all in suramerica play 2 tournaments: apertura and clausura
few years back the logic game was the winner of both tourneys to meet in december for the grand finale... then economic reasons and more interest was develop, with the argentinian Idea of crowning one team every 5 months (after 30 days or so of rest, for trades and such)
for example: colombia looked into that type of tournaments and increased attendance at the end of both tournaments big time. They send to copa Libertadores the winner of the first tournament and the winner of the 2nd tournament, but they wave 3 spots to fill, so they look at the best team (different than the 2 last champs) with the more points in the 10 months of footy. Did that make anysense to you?
the experts for chile = metrochile
and peru = vico or condor11
will be here later with their countries format, thanks for the question.
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02 Aug 2003, 06:15 PM
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Originally posted by SoccerApe
The demand for the game is unquenchible first off. The local championships and libertadores have been playing multiple championships for 100 years now. Libertadores being older than any european tournament the 1st int tournament. Simply why play in an international game? Because it is global. The top 5 teams from every country in SA play each other a home and away game to make it fair. Everyone in SA participates. So every body is SA plays more than two actually. the winner of Lbertadores plays the winner of the UEFA cup so now Boca Juniors and AC Milan face each other for the intercontinental title in December of this year in japan.
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You missunderstud me, I was asking why they play two national championships within a year, the apertura and the clausura.
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02 Aug 2003, 06:22 PM
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Many leagues in Europe take a month off in the winter but then the same competition goes on. Why couldn't that work for Argentina? Do clubs get relegated and promoted every six months? Who qualifies for the Copa Libertadores from Argentina? Is there a national cup?
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02 Aug 2003, 06:38 PM
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all countries in the north side of conmebol, take 50 days from dec 24 or 25 off.... during june, they take 30 days only, give or take a day.
and 3 or 4 ligas in deep south (summer time) play in late jan..... right now is their winter, and then recess is 50 t0 55 days in southern countries. Remember is 2 different Hemisfers (ecuador makes the line)
can not compare to euros! I think
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02 Aug 2003, 06:53 PM
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So is the climate the reson why there are two champions a year in Argentina? Is that what you are saying?
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02 Aug 2003, 07:37 PM
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So is the climate the reson why there are two champions a year in Argentina? Is that what you are saying?
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no - that is not the reason for 2 tournaments
the wheater only affect time off the field in each area, in argentina they will start Today torneo clausura.... after a month off, may be 40 days or so
In europe they will stay off the field for another 3 weeks, right?
from argies, copa Libertadolares, takes 4 teams
2 champs and the best in points from the 2 tourneys (different than champs).... the 4th team I have no clue how they pick them.
yes, to relegation question... they use the system, but any of the 2 marios of the forum may expan on that.
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02 Aug 2003, 08:45 PM
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I think the reason is that people love soccer in South America and Europe so much, that we wish the season went on all year round.
That just wouldn't be possible.
The NBA, NFL, NHL season don't last more than 6 months ( I believe)
In the same way, soccer seasons don't last more than 6 months. But people want more soccer, so why not play two seasons and then have a champion based on points or the winner of a game between the two champions.
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02 Aug 2003, 09:37 PM
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besides the brutal game of NFl can not take more than 17 games a yr.... players will be on therapy for a long time, no wonder they have 53 on rosters!
yeah, danRod, that is a good was to put it, we love futbol and is the more important (only) game in suramerica
I know that brazil, urus and argies had a basketball season, but is probably not as long as the NBA...
venezuela, has strong preference for Baseball, but never as long as Mjor league Base.....How they do that en venezuela? How many months off for futbol liga, 2tourneys?
argieS: Just promoted 2 teams, ATLETICO RAFAELA AND QUILMES, What do they do in venezuela?
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