All Time MLS Playoffs Records

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  1. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    All Time MLS Play-Off Records up to 2007
    (Updated base on http://www.rsssf.com/tablesu/usaalltime.html, including NE 1-0 Chicago on Nov-8):

    A: number of play-offs appearances
    C: Champions
    R: Runners-Up
    S: Semifinalists
    Q: Quarterfinalists
    G: Games
    W: Wins/shoot-out wins
    D: Draws
    L: Loses/shoot-out loses
    P%: success percentage =(W+Dx0.5)/GP

    # Team ------------------- A C R S Q | GP W- D L- P%
    1 Washington DC United --- 9 4 1 1 3 | 36 23 4 09 0,694
    2 Clash/Earthquakes/Dynamo 8 3 0 1 4 | 25 13 2 10 0,560 *TBD
    3 Los Angeles Galaxy ---- 10 2 3 3 2 | 45 26 4 15 0,622
    4 Chicago Fire ----------- 9 1 2 3 3 | 36 19 4 13 0,583
    5 Kansas City Wizards ---- 8 1 1 3 3 | 29 12 4 13 0,483 *TBD
    6 New England Revolution - 8 0 3 3 2 | 29 12 7 10 0,523 *TBD
    7 Colorado Rapids -------- 9 0 1 3 5 | 27 07 5 15 0,352
    8 Columbus Crew ---------- 7 0 0 4 3 | 26 11 3 12 0,481
    9 Dallas Burn/FC -------- 10 0 0 2 8 | 29 09 4 16 0,379
    10 Metrostars/Red Bulls -- 9 0 0 1 8 | 23 06 4 13 0,348
    11 Tampa Bay Mutiny ------ 4 0 0 1 3 | 11 02 0 09 0,182
    12 Miami Fusion ---------- 3 0 0 1 2 | 10 03 0 07 0,300
    13 CD Chivas USA --------- 2 0 0 0 2 | 04 01 1 02 0,375
     
  2. scaryice

    scaryice Member

    Jan 25, 2001
    My numbers through 2006, shootouts counted as draws:

    Code:
    [U]        		W	L	D	Pts	PPG[/U]
    1	DC United	20	7	7	67	[B]1.97[/B]
    2	Los Angeles	25	12	8	83	[B]1.84[/B]
    3	Houston 	2	1	1	7	[B]1.75[/B]
    4	San Jose	10	8	1	31	[B]1.63[/B]
    5	Chicago  	16	12	5	53	[B]1.61[/B]
    6	Chivas USA	1	1	0	3	[B]1.50[/B]
    7	New England	10	9	7	37	[B]1.42[/B]
    8	Columbus	10	12	4	34	[B]1.31[/B]
    9	Kansas City	10	12	5	35	[B]1.30[/B]
    10	Miami   	3	5	2	11	[B]1.10[/B]
    11	Colorado	7	14	6	27	[B]1.00[/B]
    12	New York	5	11	5	20	[B]0.95[/B]
    13	Dallas  	6	14	7	25	[B]0.93[/B]
    14	Tampa Bay	2	9	0	6	[B]0.55[/B]
    15	Real Salt Lake	0	0	0	0	[B]N/A[/B]
    
     
  3. garbaggio

    garbaggio Member

    Jan 3, 2001
    Arlington
    It's worth remembering that earlier playoff formats resulted in considerably more playoff games. And as many as 80% of teams made the playoffs some years.

    So teams, and players, who were playoff regulars in those years amassed a lot of stats in a relatively short time span.
     
  4. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It looks like an error was made with Chivas. They lost one game and drew the second ... not won one and lost one.
     
  5. Offebacher

    Offebacher Member

    May 14, 2006
    Houston
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think those numbers were "through" 2006.
     
  6. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    D'oh!!! You are right! Sorry scaryice. My bad.
     
  7. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    All Time MLS Play-Off Records up to 2007
    (Updated base on http://www.rsssf.com/tablesu/usaalltime.html, including HOU 2-0 KCW on Nov-10):

    A: number of play-offs appearances
    C: Champions
    F: Finalists
    S: Semifinalists
    Q: Quarterfinalists
    G: Games
    W: Wins/shoot-out wins
    D: Draws
    L: Loses/shoot-out loses
    P%: success percentage =(W+Dx0.5)/GP

    # Team ------------------- A C F S Q | GP W- D L- P%
    1 Washington DC United --- 9 4 1 1 3 | 36 23 4 09 0,694
    2 Clash/Earthquakes/Dynamo 8 3 1 0 4 | 26 14 2 10 0,577 *TBD
    3 Los Angeles Galaxy ---- 10 2 3 3 2 | 45 26 4 15 0,622
    4 Chicago Fire ----------- 9 1 2 3 3 | 36 19 4 13 0,583
    5 Kansas City Wizards ---- 8 1 1 3 3 | 30 12 4 14 0,467
    6 New England Revolution - 8 0 4 3 2 | 29 12 7 10 0,523 *TBD
    7 Colorado Rapids -------- 9 0 1 3 5 | 27 07 5 15 0,352
    8 Columbus Crew ---------- 7 0 0 4 3 | 26 11 3 12 0,481
    9 Dallas Burn/FC -------- 10 0 0 2 8 | 29 09 4 16 0,379
    10 Metrostars/Red Bulls -- 9 0 0 1 8 | 23 06 4 13 0,348
    11 Tampa Bay Mutiny ------ 4 0 0 1 3 | 11 02 0 09 0,182
    12 Miami Fusion ---------- 3 0 0 1 2 | 10 03 0 07 0,300
    13 CD Chivas USA --------- 2 0 0 0 2 | 04 01 1 02 0,375
     
  8. profiled

    profiled Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 7, 2000
    slightly north of a mile high
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Can anyone do a table of series won, not just individual game records?
     
  9. socluis90

    socluis90 Member+

    Aug 11, 2004
    So Cal
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Imagine if La would have made it and DC would have hosted the Eastern Championship.
     
  10. lurking

    lurking Member+

    Feb 9, 2002
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    San Jose and Houston DO NOT have a unified playoff record. Split them.
     
  11. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here's an interesting way of looking at the table:

    Team - Series Wins - Total Wins
    LA - 7 - 26
    NE - 7 - 12
    DC - 6 -23
    Chi - 6 - 19
    KC - 5 - 12
    SJ/Hou - 4 - 14
    Clb - 4 - 11
    Col - 4 - 7
    Dal - 2 - 9
    NY - 1 - 6
    Mia - 1 - 3
    TB - 1 - 2
    Chv - 0 - 1

    New England is reallly efficient, winning as many series as LA in less than half the total wins, while Dallas has 2 more wins than Colorado, but 2 less series wins.

    (This is a bit skewed because of the changing playoff formats, so to win some series takes more wins than others)
     
  12. lurking

    lurking Member+

    Feb 9, 2002
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Again, San Jose and Houston do not share playoff records.
     
  13. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah but I only had his data to go off of so I didn't know which wins were credited to SJ and which ones were credited to Houston.
     
  14. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    All Time MLS Play-Off Records up to 2007
    (Updated base on
    http://www.rsssf.com/tablesu/usaalltime.html, including HOU 2-0 KCW on Nov-10):

    A: number of play-offs appearances
    C: Champions
    F: Finalists
    S: Semifinalists
    Q: Quarterfinalists
    G: Games
    W: Wins/shoot-out wins
    D: Draws
    L: Loses/shoot-out loses
    P%: success percentage =(W+Dx0.5)/GP

    # Team ------------------- A C F S Q | GP W- D L- P%
    1 Washington DC United --- 9 4 1 1 3 | 36 23 4 09 0,694
    2 Los Angeles Galaxy ---- 10 2 3 3 2 | 45 26 4 15 0,622
    3 SJ Clash/Earthquakes---- 6 2 0 0 4 | 19 10 1 08 0,553
    4 Chicago Fire ----------- 9 1 2 3 3 | 36 19 4 13 0,583
    5 Kansas City Wizards ---- 8 1 1 3 3 | 30 12 4 14 0,467
    6 Houston Dynamo --------- 2 1 1 0 0 | 07 04 1 02 0,643 *TBD
    7 New England Revolution - 8 0 4 3 2 | 29 12 7 10 0,523 *TBD
    8 Colorado Rapids -------- 9 0 1 3 5 | 27 07 5 15 0,352
    9 Columbus Crew ---------- 7 0 0 4 3 | 26 11 3 12 0,481
    10 Dallas Burn/FC ------- 10 0 0 2 8 | 29 09 4 16 0,379
    11 Metrostars/Red Bulls -- 9 0 0 1 8 | 23 06 4 13 0,348
    12 Tampa Bay Mutiny ------ 4 0 0 1 3 | 11 02 0 09 0,182
    13 Miami Fusion ---------- 3 0 0 1 2 | 10 03 0 07 0,300
    14 CD Chivas USA --------- 2 0 0 0 2 | 04 01 1 02 0,375
     
  15. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow I must have been really tired last night, this table is completely wrong. let's try this again...

    Team - Series Wins - Total Wins
    LA - 21 - 26
    DC - 15 -23
    NE - 11 - 12
    Chi - 10 - 19
    KC - 8 - 12
    SJ - 6 - 10
    Col - 5 - 7
    Hou - 5 - 4
    Clb - 4 - 11
    Dal - 2 - 9
    NY - 1 - 6
    Mia - 1 - 3
    TB - 1 - 2
    Chv - 0 - 1
     
  16. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    All Time MLS Play-Off Records up to 2007
    (Updated base on http://www.rsssf.com/tablesu/usaalltime.html, including HOU 2-1 NER on Nov-18):

    A: number of play-offs appearances
    C: Champions
    F: Finalists
    S: Semifinalists
    Q: Quarterfinalists
    G: Games
    W: Wins/shoot-out wins
    D: Draws
    L: Loses/shoot-out loses
    P%: success percentage =(W+Dx0.5)/GP

    # Team ------------------- A C F S Q | GP W- D L- P%
    1 Washington DC United --- 9 4 1 1 3 | 36 23 4 09 0,694
    2 Los Angeles Galaxy ---- 10 2 3 3 2 | 45 26 4 15 0,622
    3 SJ Clash/Earthquakes---- 6 2 0 0 4 | 19 10 1 08 0,553
    4 Houston Dynamo --------- 2 2 0 0 0 | 08 05 1 02 0,688
    5 Chicago Fire ----------- 9 1 2 3 3 | 36 19 4 13 0,583
    6 Kansas City Wizards ---- 8 1 1 3 3 | 30 12 4 14 0,467
    7 New England Revolution - 8 0 4 3 2 | 30 12 7 11 0,517
    8 Colorado Rapids -------- 9 0 1 3 5 | 27 07 5 15 0,352
    9 Columbus Crew ---------- 7 0 0 4 3 | 26 11 3 12 0,481
    10 Dallas Burn/FC ------- 10 0 0 2 8 | 29 09 4 16 0,379
    11 Metrostars/Red Bulls -- 9 0 0 1 8 | 23 06 4 13 0,348
    12 Tampa Bay Mutiny ------ 4 0 0 1 3 | 11 02 0 09 0,182
    13 Miami Fusion ---------- 3 0 0 1 2 | 10 03 0 07 0,300
    14 CD Chivas USA --------- 2 0 0 0 2 | 04 01 1 02 0,375
     
  17. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    Updated thru 2007:

    # Team --------- W- L- D- Pts PPG
    1 Houston------- 05 02 01 16 2.00
    2 DC United----- 20 08 08 68 1.89
    3 Los Angeles--- 25 12 08 83 1.84
    4 San Jose------ 10 08 01 31 1.63
    5 Chicago------- 17 13 06 57 1.58
    6 New England--- 12 10 08 44 1.47
    7 Columbus------ 10 12 04 34 1.31
    8 Kansas City--- 11 13 06 39 1.30
    9 Miami--------- 03 05 02 11 1.10
    10 Colorado----- 07 14 06 27 1.00
    11 Chivas USA--- 01 02 01 04 1.00
    12 New York----- 05 12 06 21 0.91
    13 Dallas------- 06 14 07 25 0.93
    14 Tampa Bay---- 02 09 00 06 0.55
    15 Real Salt Lake 0 00 00 00 N/A
    16 Toronto------- 0 00 00 00 N/A

    Houston tops!
     
  18. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Statistically analyzing the league, it makes more sense to follow the franchise.

    San Jose can keep their stars and trophies, but an honest statistical appraisal of the history of coherent teams is better done without regards to league marketing initiatives.
     
  19. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    For marketing reasons, sure.

    But if you want to analyze how teams have done over the history of the league, they are one and the same.
     
  20. The Cadaver

    The Cadaver It's very quiet here.

    Oct 24, 2000
    La Cañada, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thna why is Galaxy included? We haven't been coherent for years.
     
  21. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
  22. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Actually they're not. The "franchise" actually stayed in SJ as well. For statistical purposes Houston only has a 3 year franchise history to work with statistically as well. It may not be convenient or pretty but anything 2005 and before is statistically part of San Jose's playoff records and will remain so.
     
  23. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Like I said. For marketing reasons, sure.

    If you're trying to statistically analyze the history of given franchises or teams, then the original ClashQuakes and Dynamo are one team and the current Quakes are a second.

    Keep your "record books" as you will. That's cool.
     
  24. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So what you're saying is for statistical purposes, even though the Dynamo didn't exist before 2006 you should still use old numbers to statistically analyze them? Doesn't track for me. They didn't exist prior to 2006 so there is nothing to statistically analyze.
     
  25. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    If you're trending the way teams and players stats change over time than the 96-05 ClashQuakes and 06-08 Dynamo are statistically one cohesive entity.

    For marketing purposes, it does nothing to crow about trophies won in San Jose to the Houston market.

    There are valid reasons to look at things both ways.
     

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