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27 Sep 2007, 09:42 AM
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The coaching: Brazil Post Game discussion [R]
I will get this going. Its going to be a huge topic and the title will keep it all in one forum. Thanks for the suggestion, I did edit the title.
I am incensed with Ryan and the decisions made in the last 24 hours regarding the WNT. Proof to me that he has a super ego that got in the way of good sound decision making in the semi finals of the world cup. Brazil in the second half was pushing our face in it. They were not content to savor the win. They wanted to run it up.
1) Starting Scurry instead of Solo. Unfair to Bri to even put her in that position. The team chemistry was put in jeopardy. Solos' head has to be totally screwed up, can she recover. t She got them there. Bris' tentativeness on the field was evident. Ryan said he'd take the heat. I'd fire him.
2) This is detrimental to the short term future of the WNT. Olympics are 12 months away. It will take months to get their heads around this embarrassment. Other WNT games coming up in the consolation round and in the next 2 months. ugh....... We needed this PR to gain momentum for the restart of the professional league in 2 years. This is indirectly a set back.
3) I hope someone can explain the subs made in the second half. Why are Kai and Tarp on the bench while he subs in people who have not played one minute in world cup instead of putting some offense in to score some goals. Fire him again.
4) Shoot me. As I am writing they just scored their 4th goal. They are pushing our face in it.
Have at it.
I am so beside myself with the stupidity.
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Last edited by thesoccerphantom; 27 Sep 2007 at 09:52 AM.
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27 Sep 2007, 09:46 AM
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Re: Fire Ryan
Thread title kinda implies the result, can you change temporarily?
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27 Sep 2007, 10:04 AM
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Re: Fire Ryan
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Thread title kinda implies the result, can you change temporarily?
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To what, the "Greg Ryan Pile-on Thread"?
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27 Sep 2007, 10:04 AM
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Re: Ryan ?????
Good points here. I was unable to watch the match, but was flabbergasted by the last two subs in particular - nothing against them, but what a way to enter the World Cup!! And you're right, it put Bri in a terrible position.
Tony D mentioned yesterday that Colleen Hacker wasn't with the team in China. At the very least this all bespeaks a total lack of understanding/respect for things like team chemistry, mental preparation, etc.
Can't wait to see what BEULAH has to say about all this!
PS Time to lure Pia Sundhage away from the Chinese team, I say!
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27 Sep 2007, 10:08 AM
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Re: Ryan ????? [R]
I've just put my Football Manager resume in the mail, honestly. (Yes, I'm stealing it from the Boro fan)
Lets see you match this shiz, Ryan:
Football Club København (Denmark)
Tenure: 2006 – 2010 (2/19/2010 Game time, Still at job)
Honors: 2006/2007 – Danish Super Cup (1), Danish Cup (1), Royal League (1), Danish Premier Division (1)
2007/2008 – Danish Super Cup (2), Danish Cup (2), Royal League (2), Danish Premier Division (2), UEFA Champions League Runner Up (1)
2008/2009 – Danish Super Cup (3), Danish Cup (3), Royal League (3), Danish Premier Division (3), UEFA Cup (1)
2009/2010 (in progress) – Danish Super Cup (4)
Misc. – 57-match unbeaten run in the league (active), the Chairman wants to have my babies.
Half that was with Westberg in goal, son.
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27 Sep 2007, 10:13 AM
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Re: Ryan ????? [R]
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Originally Posted by thesoccerphantom
I will get this going. Its going to be a huge topic and the title will keep it all in one forum. Thanks for the suggestion, I did edit the title.
I am incensed with Ryan and the decisions made in the last 24 hours regarding the WNT. Proof to me that he has a super ego that got in the way of good sound decision making in the semi finals of the world cup. Brazil in the second half was pushing our face in it. They were not content to savor the win. They wanted to run it up.
Not sure about ego but bad decisions
1) Starting Scurry instead of Solo. Unfair to Bri to even put her in that position. The team chemistry was put in jeopardy. Solos' head has to be totally screwed up, can she recover. t She got them there. Bris' tentativeness on the field was evident. Ryan said he'd take the heat. I'd fire him.
I agree
2) This is detrimental to the short term future of the WNT. Olympics are 12 months away. It will take months to get their heads around this embarrassment. Other WNT games coming up in the consolation round and in the next 2 months. ugh....... We needed this PR to gain momentum for the restart of the professional league in 2 years. This is indirectly a set back.
I disagree. This will ultimately help the women's game. Brazil is awesome on the ball creative and play with flair.
The US play Boot and Pray and that will not work any longer in the Women's game. Youth coaches where you watching. Emulate Brazil not the US.
3) I hope someone can explain the subs made in the second half. Why are Kai and Tarp on the bench while he subs in people who have not played one minute in world cup instead of putting some offense in to score some goals. Fire him again.
4) Shoot me. As I am writing they just scored their 4th goal. They are pushing our face in it.
Have at it.
I am so beside myself with the stupidity.
thesoccerphantom
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This is a wakeup call to the USA and the style of play. They need to find players that are creative and good on the ball not just big and fast.
The USA has these type of players just not the coaching recognize it.
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27 Sep 2007, 10:21 AM
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Re: Ryan ????? [R]
Did Tarpley kill his dog or something? Because she is going to have to buy tickets to get on the field! The last subs were an absolute joke. I would've kept Lopez in, yeah, she was getting beat but you could've definitely used the subs elsewhere. Put Lloyd in for Boxx, then sub Kai and Tarp in. Maybe that wouldn't have worked but anything might've been better than this. This was a joke. You don't play a man down an entire half in the semifinals against Brazil. And then to hear him use that as a reason for the loss... He actually said in an interview "I don't think the goalkeeper switch had anything to do with it. Playing a man down hurt us." Well why the hell didn't you sub you idiot????? You didn't have to play a man down!!! I'm getting so pissed that all my rational reasoning is flying out the window and all I wanna do is just sit and scream vulgarities at the man!
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27 Sep 2007, 10:22 AM
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Re: Ryan ????? [R]
ryan said that if he made a mistake he could live with it (sorry, can't find the exact quote right now). well, i'm glad his conscience is clear. sure, it didn't win us a world cup and got us humiliated in the semis, but at least i can rest easy knowing greg ryan will be able to sleep tonight. what an idiot. fire him immediately. he shouldn't have a job when he lands back in the us.
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27 Sep 2007, 10:24 AM
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Re: Ryan ????? [R]
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Originally Posted by CVAL
This is a wakeup call to the USA and the style of play. They need to find players that are creative and good on the ball not just big and fast.
The USA has these type of players just not the coaching recognize it.
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I cant agree more!! And the same thing is happening in our youth Natl teams. They are looking at the bigger girls and not really the creative players. Team Wambach doesnt work.
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