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20 Sep 2007, 01:53 PM
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Kerlon - "Seal Dribble", fair?
If you don't know who he is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerlon
He's a young Brazilian player known for his talented "seal dribble". The controversy is, according to people in the sport, that it is an unfair maneuver, provocation, and ruins the integrity of the game. Thoughts?
Here it is:
[youtube]LYlqql38XkY[/youtube]
[youtube]YBXv5FISzjg[/youtube]
As you can tell, other players don't take too kindly to this trick.
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20 Sep 2007, 04:41 PM
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Re: Kerlon - "Seal Dribble", fair?
YES 100% FAIR. Especially since he was attacking and not just playing with the ball.
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20 Sep 2007, 05:02 PM
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Re: Kerlon - "Seal Dribble", fair?
Fair? Yes. Original? Absolutely! Suicidal? Without a doubt.
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20 Sep 2007, 05:25 PM
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Re: Kerlon - "Seal Dribble", fair?
It's not that original. I've seen Coutinho pulling this trick (the seal dribble) in a paulista game from 1961.
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20 Sep 2007, 05:28 PM
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Re: Kerlon - "Seal Dribble", fair?
100 % Fair. I happen to hold the opinion that "3D" air dribbling is the way of the future. Think about it it. Right now most of attacking dribbling is done on the ground, on a two dimensional plane. Just think how hard it would be to defend against players who do most of their attacking touches in the air. It's an aspect of the game that has yet to fully develop, IMHO.
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20 Sep 2007, 06:16 PM
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Re: Kerlon - "Seal Dribble", fair?
It is completely unfair and a joke, it is a disgrace to the game, the only way to stop it is to foul the crap out of him, it is awful and not the way the game is meant to be played, I am absolutely disgusted watching this move and I just wish that guy knocked him on his a** ten times harder so he won't ever do it again. I hope every time he does this somebody goes after him with intent for injury I sure would.
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20 Sep 2007, 06:25 PM
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Re: Kerlon - "Seal Dribble", fair?
He's gonna get flattened by some defender who will forever be labeled a "thug" and a "cheat" by wusses.
What if he runs across Ben Thatcher?
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20 Sep 2007, 06:44 PM
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Re: Kerlon - "Seal Dribble", fair?
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Originally Posted by loden
100 % Fair. I happen to hold the opinion that "3D" air dribbling is the way of the future. Think about it it. Right now most of attacking dribbling is done on the ground, on a two dimensional plane. Just think how hard it would be to defend against players who do most of their attacking touches in the air. It's an aspect of the game that has yet to fully develop, IMHO.
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Unless you've played beach soccer in Rio.
I don't deny the skill that it takes, but this move is all too easy to defend; Elbow to throat to ground.
The REAL problem with that kind of a skill move is that the player performing the move is defenseless. They won't survive long if they persist in taking the ball "out of play", because the defender will put it back into play...as you saw.
And NO, I'm not advocating that this is what should happen, I'm simply acknowledging that, as the clip so amply demonstrated, it's what will happen.
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21 Sep 2007, 01:35 PM
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Re: Kerlon - "Seal Dribble", fair?
Now, I'm not too familiar with certain rules, but what if a defender just stood in his lane? Why does he need to be fouled hard, besides trying to get a message across? Let's say the defender stands his ground, and Kerlon runs into him while doing this, who is the foul on?
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21 Sep 2007, 02:05 PM
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Re: Kerlon - "Seal Dribble", fair?
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Originally Posted by Forza Napoli Ultras
Now, I'm not too familiar with certain rules, but what if a defender just stood in his lane? Why does he need to be fouled hard, besides trying to get a message across? Let's say the defender stands his ground, and Kerlon runs into him while doing this, who is the foul on?
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then the foul would likely be on kerlon. but i agree in that it IS a fair move. he learned it from his father(forgot the name) but any defender who takes him out for it is a jealous coward. the only way to defend it is the stand your ground. don't ********ing be a dick, just stand your ground.
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