[johan neeskens]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/spo...cle2437525.ece

I'm obviously pleased that Michels is on top but I'm sure some of you will disagree.

[zenden]

Paisley, 6th?

[The Potter]

Red Nose Ferguson above Clough! Who did he pay?

[Alex_K]

Franz Beckenbauer is the best German manager of all times?

Credibility, meet window.
Window, meet credibility.

[pippomo]

I can't understand how they can make these rankings.
Speaking of Italian coache or foreign coaches that worked in Italy I think they missed the importance of Liedholm, as an innovator in italian football. He was the first who brought back zone playing after years of man to man defending all over the pitch.
Then obviously there is Pozzo: aside from hi victories n two championship he must be credited together with austrian coach Meisl for the invention of the "sistema" ( an evolution of the 2-3-5 played in england in the 90s of XIX century ).
Italy and Austria playing Sistema were in fact the two best european team from the late 20's through all the 30s.
Also I don't see Herbert Chapman who was a great tactician innovator with his wm.

[johan neeskens]

I think it's a bit odd to put Cruyff above Hiddink.

[zenden]

Ferguson and Busby over Shankley and Paisley?

[pippomo]

Originally Posted by pippomo

I can't understand how they can make these rankings.
Speaking of Italian coache or foreign coaches that worked in Italy I think they missed the importance of Liedholm, as an innovator in italian football. He was the first who brought back zone playing after years of man to man defending all over the pitch.
Then obviously there is Pozzo: aside from hi victories n two championship he must be credited together with austrian coach Meisl for the invention of the "sistema" ( an evolution of the 2-3-5 played in england in the 90s of XIX century ).
Italy and Austria playing Sistema were in fact the two best european team from the late 20's through all the 30s.
Also I don't see Herbert Chapman who was a great tactician innovator with his wm.

hmmm... I think I missed that this is a post war list.
So no Pozzo and Miesl.

[hazy davey]

Neat list.

One guy who comes to mind, who probably deserves to be on the list is Gavril Kachalin, who coached the Soviet Union in the 1950s and 1960s, winning the European Championship in 1960.

[babaorum]

Michel Hidalgo -who coached France between 1976 and 1984 and leaded them to a WC semi-final and to their EC84 triumph- probably deserved to be in this list.