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Old 22 Jul 2007, 12:10 PM   #1
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I do not mean players who wore number 10, but played in the true #10 position. So Figo who wore #10 at Real Madrid should not count.

1) Pelel
2) Maradona
3) Platini
4) Puskas(not sure whether he was a true #10 even through he wore #10.
5) Zidane
6) Best(I actualsee Puskas)
7) Zico
8) Ronaldinho
9) Gullit(true #10???)
10) Rivera

any more???
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Old 22 Jul 2007, 12:56 PM   #2
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Not George Best.

For Germany, the two greatest #10s were Wolfgang Overath and Günter Netzer.
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Old 22 Jul 2007, 05:15 PM   #3
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Kopa, Giresse
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Old 29 Jul 2007, 05:21 AM   #4
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For Germany, the two greatest #10s were Wolfgang Overath and Günter Netzer.
schuster too

also matthaus

beckenbauer deserves to be up there too
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schuster too

also matthaus

beckenbauer deserves to be up there too
I wouldn't classify Bernd Schuster as a number 10. Maybe he played in that position in Spain but for Germany, he was more of a defensive midfielder and also played in central defense.

Lothar Matthäus started out as a number 6 and only later wore the number 10 shirt. He was in fact a new kind of number 10, not the traditional playmaker associated with that number.

Beckenbauer had everything required of a number 10, but he chose not to play in that position. In the 1960s, a number 10 player was classified as an inside forward. Beckenbauer never really played as a forward and in the 1970s, the number 10 player became synonymous with the central attacking midfielder. Also not a position Beckenbauer played in (although for Bayern he actually often played in midfield as they lacked a playmaker in midfield and if the opponent allowed it, Beckenbauer moved up front very often to fill the void).
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I wouldn't classify Bernd Schuster as a number 10. Maybe he played in that position in Spain but for Germany, he was more of a defensive midfielder and also played in central defense.
Yeah I meant in spain. He qualifies as he is german after all . Even though the bastard decided not to play.

For germany hansi muller was #10; how do you rate him?

In madrid they used to say schuster wore a glove on his foot, not a boot.

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Lothar Matthäus started out as a number 6 and only later wore the number 10 shirt. He was in fact a new kind of number 10, not the traditional playmaker associated with that number.
But it was close enough right?

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Beckenbauer had everything required of a number 10, but he chose not to play in that position. In the 1960s, a number 10 player was classified as an inside forward. Beckenbauer never really played as a forward and in the 1970s, the number 10 player became synonymous with the central attacking midfielder. Also not a position Beckenbauer played in (although for Bayern he actually often played in midfield as they lacked a playmaker in midfield and if the opponent allowed it, Beckenbauer moved up front very often to fill the void).
By #10 I mean the player that gets the ball through the middle area anywhere from deep to near the box and distributes/dribbles and makes the right play. No matter where he was nominally supposed to play.

Ok, he was never the nominal #10 for germany when he played libero for them, but when he played in midfield, what would you call his role? Even then he did have overath alongside him.
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Gunther Netzer should be on that list.
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Gunther Netzer should be on that list.
ronaldinho shouldn't, and overath also should be.

schuster too should be there.
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'il codino divino', Roberto Baggio. Nearly willed a markedly average Italy side to the 94 World Cup title, and would have made more noise at the international level if he hadn't gotten screwed out of caps by some awful coaches we had.
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'il codino divino', Roberto Baggio. Nearly willed a markedly average Italy side to the 94 World Cup title, and would have made more noise at the international level if he hadn't gotten screwed out of caps by some awful coaches we had.
that's true. baggio was awesome. it's too difficult to make a list of just 10 players, but ronaldinho and best should not be there.

ronaldinho because he has only played a few years and has not shone internationally, and he is overrated by the media when his actual role is much smaller than that made out.

best because he was not that much of a team player, and a playmaker's first eye is for a pass. Not a dribble or a goal. So he shouldn't be here as a playmaker
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