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05 Jul 2007, 10:57 PM
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you call it football and we call it soccer
why? can someone explain thatto me
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05 Jul 2007, 11:14 PM
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Re: you call it football and we call it soccer
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Originally Posted by bleu_is_da_color
why? can someone explain thatto me
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Do a search ; there are several threads on the subject.
BTW welcome to BigSoccer newbie,
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06 Jul 2007, 01:48 AM
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Re: you call it football and we call it soccer
In the 19th century, there were several types of "football," some of which allowed players to carry the ball and some of which didn't. In 1863, English advocates of kicking-oriented games formed the Football Association and adopted a set of rules for what became known as "association football," or "soccer" for short. Eight years later, those who preferred the carrying game (popularized at Rugby School) formed the Rugby Football Union.
Various football games were played in America, too, but in 1874, students from Montreal's McGill University introduced their hosts from Harvard to the Rugby rules. Harvard found the carrying game superior to the kicking-oriented version of football it was used to. The game spread to other elite American colleges -- Yale, Princeton, Columbia. In the 1880s, the colleges tweaked the rules, adding the scrimmage and the system of downs. This was the only version of football widely played in America at the time, so there was no need to call it anything other than "football."
Soccer was reintroduced to America in the early 1900s, when some universities looked for alternatives to violent American football (which was claiming several players' lives every year). By this time, however, the word "football" had already been reserved in America for the gridiron game. So Americans adopted the British slang term "soccer" for the round-ball version of football.
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11 Jul 2007, 10:04 PM
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Re: you call it football and we call it soccer
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Originally Posted by m1150
In the 19th century, there were several types of "football," some of which allowed players to carry the ball and some of which didn't. In 1863, English advocates of kicking-oriented games formed the Football Association and adopted a set of rules for what became known as "association football," or "soccer" for short. Eight years later, those who preferred the carrying game (popularized at Rugby School) formed the Rugby Football Union.
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And when various clubs played against each other in the early days they had a meeting beforehand to determine the rules they would play under.
Interestingly the original rules of Association Football allowed use of the hands to stop the flight of the ball - you just couldn't pick it up or run with it.
The break with the rugby clubs was more around "hacking" than handling - the rugby rules followers believed kicking opponents in the shins was perfectly reasonable.
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25 Apr 2009, 08:45 PM
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Re: you call it football and we call it soccer
Soccer, which was abandoned in favor of rugby by American colleges in the mid-1870s, was not "reintroduced to America in the 1900s." It was reintroduced to American colleges in the 1900s. It had been played continuously in the United States throughout the 1870s, 1880s and 1890s, but not by the colleges. It was mostly played by factory workers and British expatriates in places like New York; Chicago; St. Louis; Newark; Pawtucket, R.I.; Fall River, Mass.; Harrison, N.J.; Paterson, N.J., and Kearny, N.J.
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25 Apr 2009, 10:49 PM
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Re: you call it football and we call it soccer
Soccer is short for Association Football.
This is not an American term. In fact, most English-speaking countries use "soccer" to describe the sport. In rugby-playing countries, namely New Zealand, Australia and South Africa, football actually meant rugby. The Australian NT is called socceroos for a reason. In Ireland, football meant Gaelic football. In the UK, I've been told that football also meant rugby in certain circles, but I cannot vertify it.
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03 Jun 2009, 06:27 PM
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Re: you call it football and we call it soccer
The game has always been known as Football in the UK in the 1800s it was known as Association Football and Rugby was known as Rugby Football. To be honest i hate the name soccer.
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08 Jun 2009, 02:36 AM
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Re: you call it football and we call it soccer
I'd rather loved to call it as football rather than soccer then.
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08 Jun 2009, 04:51 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Sydney
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Re: you call it football and we call it soccer
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Originally Posted by Excape Goat
Soccer is short for Association Football.
This is not an American term. In fact, most English-speaking countries use "soccer" to describe the sport. In rugby-playing countries, namely New Zealand, Australia and South Africa, football actually meant rugby. The Australian NT is called socceroos for a reason. In Ireland, football meant Gaelic football. In the UK, I've been told that football also meant rugby in certain circles, but I cannot vertify it.
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That has changed about a four years ago, Kiwis and Aussies have started calling it football again...
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08 Jun 2009, 05:19 AM
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Re: you call it football and we call it soccer
Why is American Football called "football" anyway? If you look closer you see they play with their hands and use an egg and not a ball. So Handegg would be the appropriate name.
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