[NJPsycho]

Did they even go to the game? I can't tell from ESPN.

[RoverMax]

It surely doesn't look like they did. If they did, I would think we would see their sign.

[sch2383]

We were there. About 40 yards behind the goal New Zealand was defending in the second half.

[HeadHunter]

Definitly there. We filled up section A write behind the goal that the US attacked in the 2nd half

[cliffkram]

Yeah today you could actually hear the Army...dont know if that was ESPN's doing or the Army just singing louder, but still not a real variety of songs and chants....hey all you Armyfolk...check out the first page of this thread for some tips... http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showt...threadid=51588

[The Magpie]

Sam's Army, USA Supporters and others were in a corner section behind one of the goals. Unfortunately, the ESPN camera angle seldom afforded a view of them. That being said I did get a glimpse out of them on TV, and I could certainly hear them, and the numbers looked good considering the nature of the match.

The Magpie

[TangerineDream]

I was there in Richmond in the East Stand, and it amazes me that Sam's Kiddies get the notoriety they do.

Constantly addressing the New Zealand goalkeeper with a "You suck, a--hole!" on his goalkicks certainly was a way to do the US proud. Sam's Kiddies veered away from gamesmanship towards verbal abuse there. Ironic that the England fans in the game against Serbia-Monetnegro were probably better behaved than this group.

But why should people expect more from a group that uses jingoistic and trite slogans in promoting their existence? "Expeditionary Force". "Let's Roll".

For my money, the fans in the West Stands across the way were far more effective in supporting the game in a sporting manner.

The only creative, gamesmanlike (non-abusive) chant I heard was the "Stick to rugby!" chant.

[TangerineDream]

I spent a year living in Scotland in the 1990s and witnessed all sorts of racist abuse hurled at players, have been caught in the middle of an Old Firm brawl at a pub, and have seen terrace stampedes.

Sam's Army could be so much more productive (and probably effective) if they would drop the personal attacks. But since it is probably about "them" as much as it is the NATS, I am skeptical that anything will ever change.

Even the "El Norte" banner was an underhanded jab at the Mexicans.

[copaantl98]

Originally posted by TangerineDream
I was there in Richmond in the East Stand, and it amazes me that Sam's Kiddies get the notoriety they do.

Constantly addressing the New Zealand goalkeeper with a "You suck, a--hole!" on his goalkicks certainly was a way to do the US proud. Sam's Kiddies veered away from gamesmanship towards verbal abuse there. Ironic that the England fans in the game against Serbia-Monetnegro were probably better behaved than this group.

But why should people expect more from a group that uses jingoistic and trite slogans in promoting their existence? "Expeditionary Force". "Let's Roll".

For my money, the fans in the West Stands across the way were far more effective in supporting the game in a sporting manner.

The only creative, gamesmanlike (non-abusive) chant I heard was the "Stick to rugby!" chant.

Please explain all the riots the England fans have caused compared to what Sam's Army has done. Please explain the racist chants that occur in Europe.

[tame1999]

Originally posted by TangerineDream
I spent a year living in Scotland in the 1990s and witnessed all sorts of racist abuse hurled at players, have been caught in the middle of an Old Firm brawl at a pub, and have seen terrace stampedes.

Sam's Army could be so much more productive (and probably effective) if they would drop the personal attacks. But since it is probably about "them" as much as it is the NATS, I am skeptical that anything will ever change.

Even the "El Norte" banner was an underhanded jab at the Mexicans.

you friggin moron, the LA NORTE banner is an DC United Supporters Group flag. get your fax straight before you go taken underhanded jabs(whatever that is) at people.