[Devil500]

Originally Posted by Thomas A Fina

There are only two things that will help attendence :

1) A Front office that tries to get an atmosphere somewhere near to Toronto's - i.e try for real fans and work their tail off to do so rather than pumping the easier rugrat fanbase.

2) A team that doesn't suck over the period of two years. If anyone thinks that five games of pretty decent soccer can obliterate eleven years of complete and utter horseshit, they'd be about as wrong as the current administration on Iraq.

That's it. Simple, right? But either way, it's going to take time. Lot's of it probably. So we're going to have to be patient about this, as much as I want to get out my Guppy and NickSack voodoo dolls and start poking them with needles.

My guess is another 15/16k for next Saturday night and probably 6k if we're lucky for Thursday.

Can't disagree on that it has to take time eventually it will get there I hate the people who jump the gun ffs this team has been run like shite for almost 10 years some changes are comming thru it will take a bit of time to get set.

[DiamondsYank]

Originally Posted by golazo68

Please. You guys are dead wrong about the 'Bruce knows what he is doing. Reyna + good player (Angel) is way to go. Fans want winning, even if boring, etc. etc.'

I told you guys months ago you needed BIG STARS. Beckham was the gauntlet, and you counter with Reyna? JPA is a very good player, but a no-name relatively speaking.

You added 3m+ p.a. in expenses since Bruce came aboard, and his win boring strategy is exciting NO ONE. Admit it, its a failed marketing strategy.

Beckham changed everything (for the NY market). Even Chicago got it right (Blanco)

Dude, quit hijacking a thread. You already started your own thread dribbling the same garbage. Talk about lazy! You couldn't even be bothered to rephrase your nonsense. What did you do? Cut and paste?

*shoo*

[dark knight]

Seriously - who cares about attendance for 1 lousy game? Unless Red Bull is going to pull the plug on the new stadium based on this - why do we care?

[Shaydee]

i could really give a shit about attendance. what the ******** was up with our finishing??

[SideshowBob]

Originally Posted by sublicon

Sunday afternoon always sucks, mothers day or no mothers day.

I've seen this mentioned a number of times -- and I know the data backs it up -- but I don't really get why it is. The NFL doesn't have problems with Sunday afternoons and MLB intentially puts their Sunday games then -- and they usually draw pretty well on Sundays. Now, don't get me wrong -- I'm not saying that I expect MLS to draw like the NFL or even MLB, but my point is that if playing on Sunday afternoons doesn't intrinsically hurt them, why does it happen to MLS?

It doesn't seem to me that a Sunday afternoon would be a bad time to catch a game -- most everyone has off from work, the game is done well before any "bedtime" for school/work on Monday. Even if one goes to church, that should leave plenty of time to make a 3pm kickoff. Is it "youth soccer leagues"? I though they were mostly Sat afternoon gigs.

What is it about soccer or MLS specifically that would lead to diminished attendance those days?

[sublicon]

Originally Posted by SideshowBob

What is it about soccer or MLS specifically that would lead to diminished attendance those days?

Puzzles me too, the sunniest most beautiful day, and people stay home. Maybe people literally have trouble waking up and getting to the game by 3 . . who knows? My biological clock wouldn't let me miss the match, no matter how drunk I got the night before.

[PCFC]

I'm starting to give up on RBNY faith. I do not even know where to begin with this disgrace. I cannot hear the excuses anymore. There just isn't a fan base. I love the metrostars...so i must love the red bulls. I want to see them do well and watch probably all their games. But I always get disappointed in my hope that one day the Bulls willl attract like the Cosmos used to.

New Yorkers don't have cars. We are reliant on the subway. Public transportation is our life. Any use of the hidden car in some expensive parking lot is a hassle to bring out. If the Nets or Devils' can't draw big crowds (even in the playoffs) how can we expect RBNY to do so? Please open NYers to the PATH train in the upcoming stadium.

Second, there was no local media hype. Why is it so hard to be a RBNY fan in NYC? I can barely watch the games, I can never catch highlights on television, and no one will talk about Juan Pablo Angel in these upcoming weeks. Where are the reporters?? Where are the soccer articles in the paper? My faith has not been lost in MLS or New York soccer...but in the RBNY media department. This is not Austria. NYC is a huge market with tons of competition. The Yankees, Mets, Knicks, Nets, Giants, Jets, Rangers, Islanders, and Devils. These organizations have been here for years with a history of support. People won't go if you dont try.

Did MLS even advertise this game in Spanish media? I saw a huge turnout of Colombians when England played Colombia at Giants Stadium. Where were these Colombians today??? Marketing...where are you???

P.S. if anyone has a number or e-mail where i can voice my opinion to RBNY...please give it to me.

[Roehl Sybing]

Newbies are out in full force tonight.

[j1mbr0wn]

Originally Posted by Thomas A Fina

1) A Front office that tries to get an atmosphere somewhere near to Toronto's - i.e try for real fans and work their tail off to do so rather than pumping the easier rugrat fanbase.

I can't wait for my disposable, frisbie seat cushion.

[Thomas A Fina]

Again, I swear, PCFC is not my sockpuppet.

honest.

Fortunately the new stadium in Harrison is a five minute amble from the Path Station, so that's a relief (and really makes weeknight games pretty much a breeze to catch.)

I have no argument with anything else - it's spot on and I've beeen screaming about it forever. However, these problems have been hashed out more often than Ricky Williams and some of the more grizzled vets of this board a getting a bit antsy.