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29 Jan 2007, 03:57 AM
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Champions Lgue Junkie
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Matchday 19: FSV Mainz 05 v. BVB [R]
The BVB team won't have very long to celebrate that HUGE freakin' win over FC Bayern this past Friday for it is an "English Week" in the Bundesliga. Action for match day 19 begins tomorrow (Tuesday) evening. BVB visits Mainz 05 on Wednesday evening.
I guess we will see if the heart and fire the BVB team showed on Friday will carry over because this Mainz team will come to fight in front of their fantastic supporters after their 1-0 win in Bochum this past Saturday.
As I recall, Mainz has given us a hard time in each of our appearances at the Stadion am Bruchweg and I don't expect this one to be any different.
It will be harder for us as our second best striker so far this season, Ebi Smolarek, suffered a torn thigh muscle against Bayern and will be out for the next three to four weeks.
"Gunning4Chelsea", if Nelson Valdez does not step up during this period, you will get your wish of me blasting his ass out of the freakin' water.
Valdez has no excuses. As stated before, I think there are two things we actually agree on when it comes to Valdez.
1) BVB paid well too much for him.
2) We didn't pay 4.5M for a guy who just runs his ass off for the team. We need production.
If the team plays as well as it did in the second half against Bayern and Valdez can't score against Mainz, then I have to call a spade a spade.........
Let's see what happens on Wednesday night.
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30 Jan 2007, 02:46 PM
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Re: Matchday 19: FSV Mainz 05 v. BVB [R]
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Originally Posted by footyfan1
The BVB team won't have very long to celebrate that HUGE freakin' win over FC Bayern this past Friday for it is an "English Week" in the Bundesliga. Action for match day 19 begins tomorrow (Tuesday) evening. BVB visits Mainz 05 on Wednesday evening.
I guess we will see if the heart and fire the BVB team showed on Friday will carry over because this Mainz team will come to fight in front of their fantastic supporters after their 1-0 win in Bochum this past Saturday.
As I recall, Mainz has given us a hard time in each of our appearances at the Stadion am Bruchweg and I don't expect this one to be any different.
It will be harder for us as our second best striker so far this season, Ebi Smolarek, suffered a torn thigh muscle against Bayern and will be out for the next three to four weeks.
"Gunning4Chelsea", if Nelson Valdez does not step up during this period, you will get your wish of me blasting his ass out of the freakin' water.
Valdez has no excuses. As stated before, I think there are two things we actually agree on when it comes to Valdez.
1) BVB paid well too much for him.
2) We didn't pay 4.5M for a guy who just runs his ass off for the team. We need production.
If the team plays as well as it did in the second half against Bayern and Valdez can't score against Mainz, then I have to call a spade a spade.........
Let's see what happens on Wednesday night.
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very true - he really needs to embrace his chance....if he starts going - Ebi will be pressured to play well (like in the beginning of the campaign)
such competition can only bode well for BVB's results....
i am anticipating a very exciting 2nd half....for the first time in some time now
i am not going to kid myself into thinking that we have the talent to get a top 2 finish - but a top 5 is very do-able....
hopefully valdez will stop dicking around and put some away! - because 4.5 euros is loads especially for a club like BVB where looking for pennies in the couch cushions is a norm
off-topic
it looks like Jakub Blaszczykowski will be signed soon - it's just the matter of time...from what i have seen (NT performances mainly)....he might the most talented Polish player in a decade and a half....his performances against Portugal and Belgium were impressive....very gifted technically and pacey and solid at making the final pass (which we need...badly)...
from what i have read - he was part of a two man (with striker Brozek) wrecking crew in UEFA cup...where mainly Wisla was only successfully attacking through his flank - and he noted 4 assists on 6 goals....good signing if it happens
anyway - i will stop with my banter for now
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30 Jan 2007, 09:17 PM
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Re: Matchday 19: FSV Mainz 05 v. BVB [R]
Could be that both .. Amoah and Valdez (our zero goal strikers) start. Frei is slightly injured and my last knowledge is that it is not clear if he can play or not
But ... Mainz could be BOTH players chance ...
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31 Jan 2007, 03:48 AM
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Champions Lgue Junkie
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Re: Matchday 19: FSV Mainz 05 v. BVB [R]
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Originally Posted by Gunning4Chelsea
very true - he (Valdez) really needs to embrace his chance....if he starts going - Ebi will be pressured to play well (like in the beginning of the campaign)
such competition can only bode well for BVB's results....
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I agree. But like me, BVB management keeps making excuses for Valdez. I won't do it anymore. They need to stop too. This is when the team needs this guy to produce.
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Originally Posted by Gunning4Chelsea
i am anticipating a very exciting 2nd half....for the first time in some time now
i am not going to kid myself into thinking that we have the talent to get a top 2 finish - but a top 5 is very do-able....
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I think if we have some luck with injuries and get some help from others with Leverkusen and Hertha, then yes, fifth place is very doable.
A win tonight would go a long way toward that. Leverkusen hosts Bremen, who will want to win badly to stay ahead of Scheisse 04. Hertha has to travel to Hannover, who are always tough at home. With 1. FC Nuernberg being held to a goalless draw in Wolfsburg last night and Bielefeld losing in Stuttgart, if both Bremen and Hertha lose tonight and we win, we would be tied for sixth place on points with Leverkusen at 28 and just two behind Hertha at 30. Hell, we'd only be five points behind Bayern!! LOL!!
We just need to finally beat Mainz again.......
We've never lost to them, but as stats article I translated for the www.borussia-dortmund.com]official BVB website stated, four of the five overall meetings between the two clubs have ended in 1-1 draws, including the last three.
We need to take these three points, but they are a confident team going into this match.
If Roeber has indeed brought a "new attitude" to Dortmund, it will show tonight.
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Originally Posted by Gunning4Chelsea
hopefully valdez will stop dicking around and put some away! - because 4.5 euros is loads especially for a club like BVB where looking for pennies in the couch cushions is a norm
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It was a gamble. One that only Valdez can justify. The money is nothing in comparison, but this is the biggest gamble BVB has taken on a striker since some guy named Marcio Amoroso. With the money we paid, we can't afford for this guy to have an "off year".
He's not doing much better, but I still would have taken that money and paid for Sanogo.
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Originally Posted by Gunning4Chelsea
off-topic
it looks like Jakub Blaszczykowski will be signed soon - it's just the matter of time...from what i have seen (NT performances mainly)....he might the most talented Polish player in a decade and a half....his performances against Portugal and Belgium were impressive....very gifted technically and pacey and solid at making the final pass (which we need...badly)...
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From everything I've read, he's just about sure to join us next season.
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Originally Posted by Gunning4Chelsea
from what i have read - he was part of a two man (with striker Brozek) wrecking crew in UEFA cup...where mainly Wisla was only successfully attacking through his flank - and he noted 4 assists on 6 goals....good signing if it happens
anyway - i will stop with my banter for now
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Good info. I don't know much about him, but BVB management seems to think they have a good one there if we get the deal done.
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31 Jan 2007, 03:58 AM
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Champions Lgue Junkie
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Re: Matchday 19: FSV Mainz 05 v. BVB [R]
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Originally Posted by HeyaBVB
Could be that both .. Amoah and Valdez (our zero goal strikers) start. Frei is slightly injured and my last knowledge is that it is not clear if he can play or not
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Frei trained with the team yesterday. I expect him to play.
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Originally Posted by HeyaBVB
But ... Mainz could be BOTH players chance ...
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I don't think so. If for some reason Frei can't go, the website indicated that we might go with Ricken as a "withdrawn" central striker ahead of Amoah. Ricken has played this position well before.
I think it would be a good move. You want to save Amoah for when the Mainz defenders are already tired.
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31 Jan 2007, 12:38 PM
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Re: Matchday 19: FSV Mainz 05 v. BVB [R]
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Originally Posted by footyfan1
Good info. I don't know much about him, but BVB management seems to think they have a good one there if we get the deal done.
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apparently Man U and Sevilla sent serious inquiries to the Wisla management Man U scouts were present at Wisla-Basel game UEFA cup game....where Blasczykowski faired quite well - (think he was voted MOTM)
one more thing - I actually believe that this kid would be an upgrade from Odonkor....while Odonkor may be a tad quicker....he's not as gifted technically as Blaszczykowski
here's a highlight from Wisla - Feyenoord game (moves a little bit like rosicky)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=gnn5b3imY4s
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31 Jan 2007, 12:53 PM
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Champions Lgue Junkie
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Re: Matchday 19: FSV Mainz 05 v. BVB [R]
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Originally Posted by Gunning4Chelsea
one more thing - I actually believe that this kid would be an upgrade from Odonkor....while Odonkor may be a tad quicker....he's not as gifted technically as Blaszczykowski
here's a highlight from Wisla - Feyenoord game (moves a little bit like rosicky)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=gnn5b3imY4s
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If I can be sold on a player without seeing extensive coverage of him, you just did it..........
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31 Jan 2007, 03:06 PM
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Re: Matchday 19: FSV Mainz 05 v. BVB [R]
GolTV is showing Leveruksen vs. Bremen, so I'm missing out on this one.
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31 Jan 2007, 03:21 PM
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Re: Matchday 19: FSV Mainz 05 v. BVB [R]
Mainz 1 (Andreason) BVB 0 ....
Metzelder shall have fouled Ruman
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31 Jan 2007, 05:18 PM
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Re: Matchday 19: FSV Mainz 05 v. BVB [R]
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Originally Posted by lemons
GolTV is showing Leveruksen vs. Bremen, so I'm missing out on this one. 
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You didn't miss shit besides the return of the f#cking gutless wonders. You know, the REAL BVB team.
"Gunning4Chelsea" was right. Nelson Valdez is F#CKING USELESS!!!
If it weren't for the ball bouncing past him every now and then, I wouldn't have realized his sorry, no good f#cking ass was on the pitch!!!
So far, it looks like BVB has thrown away 4.5M Euros on this guy who fits into this team perfectly.
All talk, no f#cking action!!!
No more defending this guy, no more goddamned excuses!! Right now, he's a f#cking 4.5M Euro FAILURE!!!
Anyone who thinks BvM was THE PROBLEM needed to see this match tonight.
No, the team didn't play completely badly, but once again they allowed themselves to be out-hustled and out-worked by a lesser talented team who wanted it more.
In other words, new trainer, SAME OLD SHIT!!!
Near the end, they even reverted back to the f#cking useless high long passes everyone f#cking blamed on BvM!!!
BLAME THAT ON BvM NOW!!!!!
Another player who reverted back to his old form was Steven Pienaar. He was f#cking AWFUL tonight!!! Just god f#cking awful!!! You can put Philipp Degen in that category too!! I understand about what Roeber said about Degen being allowed to make mistakes, but you need to limit how many and where he makes them.
When Gladbach signed Philipp's twin David, I joked that we had the better Degen. After seeing more of David this season, I'm not so sure.......
One player who did better than Friday was Brzenska. Have to hand it to him, I don't think he did badly at all tonight. Despite giving up the penalty that lost the match, I don't think Metzelder was bad either. I thought Kruska and Kringe did all right too.
I do think Dede took a step back though. The Mainz players were all over him and he looked like he had no idea of how to handle it. I thought Tinga was "so-so" at best and Weidenfeller might get suspended for that kick he took at Jovanovic late in the match.
I think he should. That move was dirty and stupid.
There was one thing from tonight's loss that was the same as Friday's night's win over Bayern.
The "lesser talented" team who worked harder and fought harder won the match........
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