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Old 02 Aug 2002, 12:09 AM   #1
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Default Why Young Yanks shouldn't go to the premiership part 2

Gareth Southgate from 4-4-2:

"We've got talented people, but I don't think the style of the Premiership serves us well on the international stage. Whilst our league is exciting to watch, you have to adjust your style when you play international football and that handicaps us. Other nations are more comfortable on the ball whereas over the years English fans have come to expect our game to be played at a very high pace, where concentration on passing and keeping the ball is secondary."



Okay, now an actual Englishmen chimes in with his $.02 cents. This after I posted a link to Ronaldo quotes before the crash where he said that 'going to the Premiership doesn't make you a better player'.

But I don't know anything about football now do I Superdave since I never played at the highest level?

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Old 02 Aug 2002, 06:05 AM   #2
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You're going to lose again, this isn't good enough.

Was Southgate interviewed just after the world cup by any chance?

Just what league would you want to send your young players to?

Holland?
Italy?
Spain?
Portugal?

None of these leagues had national teams finishing ahead of England, only 1 got as far.

Tell ya what... send them all to Germany.

Nice try but not good enough.
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Old 02 Aug 2002, 07:30 AM   #3
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A) National Team is not the same as the Domestic League. Spain and Italy, in particular, are worried that their leagues do TOO GOOD a job training players -- players who happen to be South American, Eastern European, African, or French.

B) The British leagues do not place the same premium on close ball control as other top countries/leagues. No doubt about this. The players who can dribble are by and large imports -- Joe Cole being one exception who proves the rule.

C) Lots of players from countries where they play slow, non-physical football can benefit from playing in England. The young French players who've come to England (Pires, Henry, Anelka, Petit) have adjusted very well and it's helped their games. But they already had bags of skill when they got to England.

D) Given that Americans tend to be more "Northern" than "Southern" in their approach (ie, the emphasis is on running, team play, and not dribbling too much), I would say that the average "Young American" player would improve more in the long run if he could find a league that placed emphasis on developing ball control and creativity -- but where they won't be so outclassed that they will never get a game.

E) Having said that, I'd say France is a place where more Americans should be looking to go. The league feature high technical skill (e.g., Senegal), is fairly well-supported, and high-profile enough that you can get paid and get noticed by bigger clubs after a few years. The Dutch league is fairly similar, and obviously a place where Americans have gone, but I'm surprised more players haven't tried France.
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You're singing the same tune again??
LOL
You never answered any of my points in the last thread.

How many of the yank team from the world cup team have moved to Europe since the end of the world cup??
answer== none


team's aren't exactly lining up to buy your players.
I dont see anyone from spain or italy fighting over any yank players .I dont see any top euro scouts fighting for your signatures...
You're telling them not to go to the premiership even though we haven't even made an offers for your players .
No one else is making offers by the looks of it.
You make it sound as if you can pick and choose the best teams in europe.LOL
Get real and face reality.
Your players aren't as much in demand as you like to think.
Good luck in finding non-existant offers from other nations .
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http://sports.yahoo.com/m/world/news...u-juninho.html


That's the reason why no one should play in EPL.
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http://sports.yahoo.com/m/world/news...u-juninho.html


That's the reason why no one should play in EPL.
i know that hold some kind of personal grudge england but I dont see your point ,weirdo.

The work permit system only applies to non_EC players .that stops us getting swamped with a tidal-wave of cheap imports .Only the best (like veron ,etc..) wll get work permits .Juninho wont have any problems getting a permit.
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As SRM said Juninho will get a work permit.
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As SRM said Juninho will get a work permit.
though you've got to admit that the song and dance is a little silly... deny him first, hold a hearing, then reconsider....

As for young yanks going to england, we've been over this before. england might not be the best place for them to develop-- despite how cosmopolitan some teams are, english football still looks different from much of international football.

but as sinner said, we yanks don't exactly have lots of choices. If you can play first team only in MLS or the premiership, the gap in talent between the two leagues would probably more than compensate any perceived developmental shortcomings and I'd send any of our players to West Ham... The only time it gets harder is when you go down divisions: Huddersfield Town plays some awfully ugly football sometimes...
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Beggars can't be choosers...

Besides, wouldn't you rather be paid in pounds than francs or guilders?
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Beggars can't be choosers...

Besides, wouldn't you rather be paid in pounds than francs or guilders?
Why? Isn't there this new thing called euros?
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