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Old 17 Nov 2006, 12:50 PM   #1
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I am not from a traditional soccer country so I am always interested in thhe different affiliations of soccer clubs around the world. I cannot really understand why some fans chose to support one club, but not their cross town rival. I can come up with the following.

Spain (Perhaps where club affliation meant the most)
Real Madrid: the royalist.
Barcelona: Catanian pride
Espanyol: Loyality to the Spanish crowd as opposed to Catanian separatists
Athletic Bilbao: Basque nationalist
Real Sociedad: Basque version of Espanyol????

England
Chelsea: Posh London????

Greece
AEK: I believed they are extremely left.

Scotland
Rnagers: Protestants
Celtics: Catholics

Holand
Ajax: Jews.

Italy
Lazio: Political right
Livorno: Political left.
Napoli: Napoli represented the South, but all clubs have regional afflliations. I should not really count this one or I have to list every clubs in Europe.
Inter Milan: The founder considered it an international club and the current roster consisted of many Argentinian players. Does it still mean Inter Milan is a club for international players vs AC Milan?

Argentina
Boca Juniors: The poor.
River Plate: The Upper class.
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Old 17 Nov 2006, 01:15 PM   #2
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In Portugal:

Benfica: The common people, working class
Sporting: The educated and upper class
Porto: The vulgar people, northerners
Boavista: Elitists and foreigners


Then there are the regionalist clubs with lots of support but only from their region: Braga, Guimaraes, Beira-Mar...etc.
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Old 28 Nov 2006, 07:25 PM   #3
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I am not from a traditional soccer country so I am always interested in thhe different affiliations of soccer clubs around the world. I cannot really understand why some fans chose to support one club, but not their cross town rival. I can come up with the following.
I run a website that focuses on a lot of these issues. Take a look - http://www.albionroad.com

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Spain (Perhaps where club affliation meant the most)
Real Madrid: the royalist.
Real Madrid's support isn't really royalist. The Spanish monarchy exists as a figurehead and tabloid entertainment these days a la the British. Their support is more Center-Right/Castilian/Republican (ie unitary Spain) as opposed to one of the regions.
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Espanyol: Loyality to the Spanish crowd as opposed to Catanian separatists
Espanyol was founded as a club for Spaniards, as opposed to Barcelona who were (in their early days) made up almost exclusively of foreigners. I'm not sure their fan base is really any less Catalan but obviously they're not the flagship that Barca are.
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Real Sociedad: Basque version of Espanyol????
No, they are also proudly Basque.
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Ajax: Jews.
Sort of. I think that some of the founders/influential players were Jewish. Rival fans began to sing anti-Semitic songs at matches and the Ajax supporters adopted being "Jewish" as a badge of pride although there aren't really any more Jewish Ajax fans than Jewish fans of other Dutch clubs.
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Inter Milan: The founder considered it an international club and the current roster consisted of many Argentinian players. Does it still mean Inter Milan is a club for international players vs AC Milan?
Inter was formed by breakaway members of Milan which, at the time, was restricted to Italian players. In political terms, Inter's fan base is more right-wing while Milan's is more left-wing. Other Italians...

Juventus - Right
Roma - Right (used to be Left)
Fiorentina - Left
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Old 04 Dec 2006, 09:13 AM   #4
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In Brazil:

Palmeiras, Cruzeiro: Italian immigrants, the original name of them is "Palestra Italia" an be changed in second war.
São Paulo: Rich people.
Grêmio: Germany immigrants/heritage.
Flamengo, Fluminense and Botafogo: RIch people (but after 30's flamengo start to be an very popular team, and now is the team of the poors).
Vasco: Portuguese descendants, after that suburban people and black people.
Corinthians: poor people, im some times they creat the "corinthians democracy".
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Old 04 Dec 2006, 09:26 AM   #5
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Italy
Lazio: Political right
Livorno: Political left.
Napoli: Napoli represented the South, but all clubs have regional afflliations. I should not really count this one or I have to list every clubs in Europe.
Inter Milan: The founder considered it an international club and the current roster consisted of many Argentinian players. Does it still mean Inter Milan is a club for international players vs AC Milan?
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As Albion stated Milan was formed for Italians and then foreigners broke up to form Inter (funny how Inter is still an almost all foreigner team..)

Roma- The working class city people that live in Rome are Roma fans
Lazio- Mostly fans are from cities outside of Rome.
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Old 05 Dec 2006, 07:06 AM   #6
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Holland:

PSV: formerly the football branch of the employers association of Philips, the electronics company. Reputedly the 'warmest, most social' club in Holland, very good relationship with former players and other staff.

Feyenoord: working class grafters (as opposed to Ajax allegedly playing the pretty football), the hard men of Dutch football.

Heerenveen: flagship of the Frisian nationalist party (they even play their national anthem before kick-off at home games, believe it or not)

AZ: plaything of the rich (every twenty years or so some millionaire comes around and breathes new life into the club)

De Graafschap: the Super Farmers, provincial club with massive local support in the agricultural community particularly in the eastern Netherlands

Sparta: the Gentleman's Club, traditionally a club where only well-behaved footballers play (compare to that other club in Rotterdam, Feyenoord). They still have official club etiquette dictating players hairdo's among others I believe. Big cult celeb following.
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St. Pauli (Germany): Ultra left wing, punk, anti-fascist/anti-racist/anti-sexist, anti-commercialism, etc.
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Old 12 Dec 2006, 06:07 AM   #8
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St. Pauli (Germany): Ultra left wing, punk, anti-fascist/anti-racist/anti-sexist, anti-commercialism, etc.

I thought they represented the Red Light district.
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Old 15 Dec 2006, 05:43 PM   #9
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English affiliations:

Blackburn: scum
Man United: scum
Tranmere: scum
Spurs: scum
West Ham: scum
Bury: worse than scum
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Doesn't Hansa Rostock have alot of neo-Nazi fans?

The club itself isn't neo-Nazi, but they have neo-Nazi fans.
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