[Sandon Mibut]

Originally Posted by Bill Archer

Much closer to, say, Grantham, PA?

That's the one.

It'll be interesting to see where he goes in the 2008 MLS draft and how much playing in D3 hurts his stock.

[USvsIRELAND]

Originally Posted by Sandon Mibut

That's the one.

It'll be interesting to see where he goes in the 2008 MLS draft and how much playing in D3 hurts his stock.

Who is this?

And the guy that scored for the U-20's against Guatemala can't be that bad.

He's in D3.

[Bonji]

Originally Posted by USvsIRELAND

Who is this?

And the guy that scored for the U-20's against Guatemala can't be that bad.

He's in D3.

Anthony Wallace? He's at University of South Florida, which I don't think is D3 since it is in the Big East.

[USvsIRELAND]

That was in the actual game.

Kris Banghart scored in the scrimmage.

BANGHART HOPING FOR A WIN: Kris Banghart’s arrival into Florida was delayed, but not due to annoying circumstances such as a delayed flight. The defender was hoping to lead N.C. Wesleyan to a victory on Sunday night in their second round match of the 2006 NCAA Division III Tournament against Virginia Wesleyan, but the match was rained out and rescheduled for Monday evening. Despite anchoring the Bishops’ backline to a 16-1-2 season, Banghart’s head coach told him to board the plane to Sunrise to be with the U-20 Men’s National Team. “He told me I couldn’t pass up on this opportunity,” said Banghart. “I’m just hoping we win and then I’ll get to play in the next game of the tournament.” Without Banghart, the No. 6-ranked Bishops earned a 1-0 overtime win at Virginia Wesleyan. Banghart, meanwhile, plans to rejoin his college teammates for the sectional competition this Friday at No.2-ranked York College (Pa.).

Defender Kris Banghart scored the eventual game-winner, burying a pass from Bryan Arguez from eight-yards out after Arguez ditched his defender on the edge of the left side of the penalty area with some impressive step-over moves. Guatemala scored late off a corner kick, but the result was never in doubt for the U.S.

http://www.ussoccer.com/articles/vie...sp_281500.html

[JoeSoccerFan]

Originally Posted by patfan1

Since I had the time Sandon, I've listed the DOBs below.

Originally Posted by Sandon Mibut

That's good work.
I was able to find some of the DOBs for the players you couldn't track down.

Building on the work of Myshap, Monty and Sandon, I've sorted by year and added Byrne. I wanted to add Nigel Marples, Gonsalves, etc, but realized that Canadians were specifically excluded.
1982 - SI for 2007 draft:
Omar Cummings F Cincinnati Jamacia -- 7/13/82
Michael Todd F Hofstra England -- 2/11/82
Sebastian Hansel F Towson Germany-- 3/16/82
Patrik Engstrom D St. John's Sweden -- 2/24/82
Bryan Byrne, M UCSB Ireland -- 2/18/82 another guy that could play in MLS but would be SI which is tough.

1983 - YI for 2007 draft but only 1 year left before becoming SI in 2008:
Dane Richards F Clemson Jamacia -- 12/14/83
Andrew Boyens D New Mexico New Zealand -- 9/18/83
Frederico Moojen F Clemson Brazil -- 2/25/83
Constantinos Christoudias M Hofstra Cyprus -- 9/21/83
Adam Mitchinson D Hartwick England -- 11/20/83
Makan Hislop D South Carolina T&T -- 9/3/85

1984 - YI for 2007 draft but 2 years left before becoming SI in 2009:
Tommy Krizanovic F Jacksonville Croatia -- 11/20/84
Kurt Morsink M JMU Costa Rica/US -- 6/27/84 *per Sandon may have dual.
Chris Archer M High Point England -- 8/2/84
Jarrod Smith F WVU New Zealand -- 6/20/84
Ayo Akinsete F South Carolina England-- 9/26/84

1985 - YI for 2007 draft with 3 years left before becoming SI in 2010:
Ben Hunter F UNC England -- 6/16/85
Kareem Smith D South Florida T&T -- 1/1/85

Unknown:
Alex Harrison F CCSU England -- Not listed
Darren Toby M Charleston T&T -- Not listed
Mynor Gonzalez D SMU Guatemala -- Not listed
Craig Potter D Hartwick Scotland -- Not listed
Santiago Fusilier D NC State Argentina -- Not listed
Matthew Anstey M WVU Australia -- Not listed


Based on MLS site - A Youth International is a non-domestic player (i.e., non-U.S. citizen and non-green card holder) who is 24 years old or younger during the season in question. At the beginning of the year in which the player is due to reach the age of 25, this player will be re-classified as a Senior International. .

Basically, 84 or 85 shouldn't be too tough to fit in a YI slot (if available of the 3). 83 would be iffy, need to be waived or take a SI in 2008. 82 would just be very hard to justify even though I really like Byrne and Todd unless a slot is not going to be used. Cheap, int'l slot.

[cristoforo7]

Originally Posted by JoeSoccerFan

Based on MLS site - A Youth International is a non-domestic player (i.e., non-U.S. citizen and non-green card holder) who is 24 years old or younger during the season in question. At the beginning of the year in which the player is due to reach the age of 25, this player will be re-classified as a Senior International. .

I want to make sure I under the rule in terms of the year that is used to determine whether a player is 24 or 25. It appears to be a calendar year, January 1 to December 31.

So, let's say a player is born in December and will turn 25 in December 2007. That means, even though he is 24 years old during the entire MLS regular season and post-season, he is considered to be 25 for the purposes of the YI/SI distinction (and thus must be an SI). Correct?

And is the rule the same for domestic developmental roster players (if player turns 25 any time during that calendar year, including December, he cannot be a developmental player that season)?

[JoeSoccerFan]

Originally Posted by cristoforo7

I want to make sure I under the rule in terms of the year that is used to determine whether a player is 24 or 25. It appears to be a calendar year, January 1 to December 31.

So, let's say a player is born in December and will turn 25 in December 2007. That means, even though he is 24 years old during the entire MLS regular season and post-season, he is considered to be 25 for the purposes of the YI/SI distinction (and thus must be an SI). Correct?

And is the rule the same for domestic developmental roster players (if player turns 25 any time during that calendar year, including December, he cannot be a developmental player that season)?

Yes, you picked up some of the intricacy (mysteries) of this rule. I can't say definitively. However, I think both SI and Dev both use calendar year, 1/1 to 12/31. The MLS site uses season consistently which causes this confusion. However, I believe that all contracts run through 12/31 and this is what is intended. Otherwise, the end date would need to be MLS cup.

MLS should define season as being calendar year or say what the period really is.

[numerista]

Originally Posted by JoeSoccerFan

Bryan Byrne, M UCSB Ireland -- 2/18/82 another guy that could play in MLS but would be SI which is tough.

I suspect that you're confusing Byrne's quality with his maturity. I mean, guys like Adolfo Gregorio and Ty Maurin weren't up to MLS standards, but if they had stuck around in college till 2006, they would've been awesome. And they're both still younger than Byrne.

Back when Byrne was the age of a normal senior, he wasn't even a starter, and last year, at age 23, he was only Second-Team All-Big-West. His success in college is all about having a few extra years of development.

[Futbolife]

the mere fact that Riley Oneil from the University of Kentucky is not on anybodys list is absurd, look at his stats, he is going to the mls combine and will definatley be picked up in the superdraft if Toronto doesnt try and pick him up first.

[Soccer Doc]

Originally Posted by Bill Archer

Yeah but on the up side, you get to keep the t-shirt.

And years from now you get to tell your grandkids that you were good enough to have gotten a tryout with a MLS Team. MLS by then will be on par footing with the best leagues in the world. If you keep a few pictures of yourself at the tryout and the tee shirt as proof the kids will be mega impressed.