[Soccernethost]

Mods, started a new thread so people could see the title. Figured it might be of interest to others and if it was post #38 in another thread no one would see it. Not like the board is being burned up with new topics in any event.

Field players 32 or older today were dropped from the list. There were also a few names I couldn't find a DOB for and since I'd never heard of them didn't worry about it.

Name, Age in 2006, (DOB) in order of birth by position:

Goalkeepers:

Kasey Keller - 36 (11/69)
Brad Friedel - 35 (5/71)
Zach Thornton - 32 (10/73)
Kevin Hartman - 32 (5/74)
Joe Cannon - 31 (1/75)
Matt Jordan - 30 (10/75)
Tim Howard - 27 (3/79)
Nick Rimando - 27 (6/79)
Adin Brown - 27 (5/78)

Defenders:

Tony Sanneh - 35 (6/71)
Greg Vanney - 32 (6/74)
Greg Berhalter - 32 (8/73)
Eddie Pope - 32 (12/73)
Frankie Hejduk - 31 (8/74)
CJ Brown - 31 (6/75)
Steve Jolley - 30 (10/75)
Mike Petke - 30 (1/76)
Wade Barrett - 30 (6/76)
Jimmy Conrad - 29 (2/77)
Ramiro Corrales - 29 (3/77)
Ryan Suarez - 29 (7/77)
Chad McCarty - 28 (10/77)
Steve Cherundolo - 27 (2/79)
Nick Garcia - 27 (4/79)
Carlos Bocanegrea - 27 (5/79)
Jim Curtin - 27 (6/79)
Rusty Pierce - 26 (7/79)
Corey Gibbs - 26 (1/80)
Danny Califf - 26 (3/80)
Phil Sayler - 25 (10/81)
Nelson Akwari - 24 (2/82)
"Gooch" Onyewu - 24 (5/82)
Alex Yi - 24 (2/82)

Midfielders:

Chris Armas - 33 (8/72)
Brian Massionneuve - 33 (6/73)
Claudio Reyna - 32 (7/73)
Eddie Lewis - 32 (5/74)
Steve Ralston - 32 (6/74)
Chris Klein - 30 (1/76)
Pablo Mastroeni - 29 (8/76)
Richard Mulrooney - 29 (11/76)
Ben Olsen - 29 (5/77)
John O'Brien - 28 (8/77)
Dema Kovalenko - 28 (8/77)
Peter Vagenas - 28 (2/78)
Sasha Victorine - 28 (2/78)
Brian West - 28 (6/78)
Francisco Gomez - 27 (1/79)
John Thorrington - 26 (10/79)
Kyle Martino - 25 (2/81)
Kelly Gray - 25 (4/81)
Brad Davis - 24 (11/81)
DaMarcus Beasley - 24 (5/82)
Bobby Convey - 23 (5/83)
Kyle Beckerman - 22 (2/84)
Justin Mapp - 21 (10/84)

Forwards:

Joe Max-Moore - 35 (2/71)
Brian McBride - 34 (6/72)
Ante Razov - 32 (3/74)
Jovan Kirovski - 30 (3/76)
Jeff Cunningham - 29 (8/76)
Clint Mathis - 29 (11/76)
Josh Wolff - 29 (2/77)
Taylor Twellman - 26 (2/80)
Chris Carrieri - 26 (4/80)
Edson Buddle - 25 (5/81)
Conor Casey - 25 (7/81)
Landon Donovan - 24 (3/82)
Alecko Eskandarian - 24 (7/82)
Devin Barclay - 23 (3/83)
Eddie Johnson - 22 (3/84)
Santino Quaranta - 21 (10/84)
Freddy Adu - 17 (6/89)

[Soccernethost]

Anyone want to update this to include players not on the radar in August 2002?

Interesting to see what an "all inclusive" list looked like 3 1/2 years ago...

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Soccernethost

Interesting to see what an "all inclusive" list looked like 3 1/2 years ago...

Yes, it is.

Heckuva good list, it must be said. Damn inclusive. OK, maybe missing a goalkeeper. After that ... Heath Pearce? Rolfe? Zavagnin? Ching? Carroll? Fringe guys in the grand scheme of things, each with only modest chances of making the roster.

The very youngest players on the list -- the guys who felt like the biggest stretch at the time, because none of them had caps, indeed most had never played a pro game -- look the most solid. OK, Alex Yi where have you gone? ... but Freddy, Santino, EJ, Mapp, Convey, Gooch, they're very much in the hunt.

Some of the very oldest have aged pretty well too. It's the medium-old, medium-quality prospects -- the guys born in the late 1970s who were never stars -- who have fared the worst. Jolley, Petke, McCarty, Garcia, Dema, Vagenas, Sasha, Gomez, Thorrington. I guess that the ultimate message is to be on quality, not age.

[Martin Fischer]

Comeone, we don't need lists of 100 anymore. Last year yes, this year, we should be down to close to 40 now.

[forza inter]

some of the guys included have retired...so we could definately try to edit this for todays standards as applicable.



forza inter

[voros]

Originally Posted by Martin Fischer

Comeone, we don't need lists of 100 anymore. Last year yes, this year, we should be down to close to 40 now.

I had been doing this more or less since others had stopped. I can do one with 50 players if you like.

[voros]

Goalkeepers
1. Kasey Keller - Moenchengladbach
2. Tim Howard - Manchester United
3. Matt Reis - New England
4. Marcus Hahnemann - Reading
5. Kevin Hartman - Los Angeles

Defenders
1. Carlos Bocanegra - Fulham
2. Oguchi Onyewu - Standard Liege
3. Eddie Pope - Salt Lake
4. Steve Cherundolo - Hannover 96
5. Cory Gibbs - Feyenoord
6. Greg Berhalter - Energie Cottbus
7. Frankie Hejduk - Columbus
8. Jonathan Spector - Manchester United
9. Chris Albright - Los Angeles
10. Heath Pearce - FC Nordsjaelland
11. Jimmy Conrad - Kansas City
12. Chad Marshall - Columbus
13. Danny Califf - Aab
14. Todd Dunivant - Los Angeles
15. Ugo Ihemelu - Los Angeles
16. Bobby Boswell - DC United
17. Nat Borchers - Colorado

Midfielders
1. Landon Donovan - Los Angeles
2. Claudio Reyna - Manchester City
3. John O'Brien - ADO Den Haag
4. DaMarcus Beasley - PSV
5. Pablo Mastroeni - Colorado
6. Eddie Lewis - Leeds
7. Bobby Convey - Reading
8. Clint Dempsey - New England
9. Steve Ralston - New England
10. Santino Quaranta - DC United
11. Chris Armas - Chicago
12. Ben Olsen - DC United
13. Kyle Martino - Columbus
14. Justin Mapp - Chicago
15. Brian Carroll - DC United
16. Chris Klein - Kansas City
17. Kerry Zavagnin - Kansas City
18. Pat Noonan - New England
19. Clint Mathis - Salt Lake
20. Benny Feilhaber - Hamburger

Forwards
1. Brian McBride - Fulham
2. Eddie Johnson - Dallas
3. Josh Wolff - Kansas City
4. Taylor Twellman - New England
5. Brian Ching - Houston
6. Conor Casey - Mainz
7. Chris Rolfe - Chicago
8. Freddy Adu - DC United

I'm guessing every one of the 23 will be on this list somewhere (save Rossi should he change his mind), but you never know.

[numerista]

This thread seems like a good place to put the results of Grant Wahl's 2002 survey of MLS coaches, plus Rongen and Ellinger, in which he asked for a starting 11.

POSITION-BY-POSITION VOTES FOR 2006

GOALKEEPER

Brad Friedel 5.5
Tim Howard 5
Adin Brown 1
Kasey Keller 0.5

RIGHT BACK

Steve Cherundolo 4.5
Tony Sanneh 2
Chris Klein 1
Pablo Mastroeni 1
Richard Mulrooney 1
Oguchi Onyewu 1
Sasha Victorine 0.5

CENTERBACKS (2)

Eddie Pope 8
Carlos Bocanegra 6
Tony Sanneh 3
Dan Califf 2
Wade Barrett 1
Gregg Berhalter 1
Pablo Mastroeni 1
Claudio Reyna 1

LEFT BACK

Carlos Bocanegra 4
Wade Barrett 3
Bobby Convey 1.5
Sasha Victorine 1.5
DaMarcus Beasley 1

RIGHT MID

Ben Olsen 9
Freddy Adu 1
Landon Donovan 1
John O’Brien 1

HOLDING CENTER MID

Pablo Mastroeni 4.5
Chris Armas 4.5
Dema Kovalenko 1
John O’Brien 1
Peter Vagenas 1

ATTACKING CENTER MID

Claudio Reyna 3
Landon Donovan 2
John O’Brien 2
Bobby Convey 1
Eddie Gaven 1
Daniel Hernandez 1
Kyle Martino 1
Clint Mathis 1

LEFT MID

DaMarcus Beasley 10
Bobby Convey 1
John O’Brien 1

FORWARDS (2)

Landon Donovan 9
Clint Mathis 6.5
Taylor Twellman 3
Eddie Johnson 2
Santino Quaranta 2
Brian McBride 1.5

[ursula]

Originally Posted by numerista

This thread seems like a good place to put the results of Grant Wahl's 2002 survey of MLS coaches, plus Rongen and Ellinger, in which he asked for a starting 11.

POSITION-BY-POSITION VOTES FOR 2006

HOLDING CENTER MID

Pablo Mastroeni 4.5
Chris Armas 4.5
Dema Kovalenko 1

- Hey SNH! long time, no read!

- CAP DEMA!!!!!

- Man, those votes in the Wahl poll sure were off in many cases. Of course, how many of those coaches are still coaching?

[sidefootsitter]

Originally Posted by ursula

- Man, those votes in the Wahl poll sure were off in many cases...

That poll should be brought up every time someone projects the current 17-20 year olds into the 2,010 WC line-up.

Four years is a darn long time in soccer years.