[footyfan1]

I made this because that just happens to be Kicker's "Question of the Week" at their website.

Here's how the poll looks as of 1PM CET on Monday, 23 October:




Wer trägt die Hauptschuld an den Turbulenzen in Dortmund?/
Who is mainly to blame for the turbulence in Dortmund?


1 Geschäftsführung/Management 41,05%
2 Trainer/Coach 11,53%
3 Spieler/Players 47,42%



I'm sure you guys know how I voted and that I agree with the results so far.

We'll check the kicker poll again later in the week, but I thought we could do our own too.

[HeyaBVB]

Originally Posted by footyfan1

I made this because that just happens to be Kicker's "Question of the Week" at their website.

Here's how the poll looks as of 1PM CET on Monday, 23 October:




Wer trägt die Hauptschuld an den Turbulenzen in Dortmund?/
Who is mainly to blame for the turbulence in Dortmund?


1 Geschäftsführung/Management 41,05%
2 Trainer/Coach 11,53%
3 Spieler/Players 47,42%



I'm sure you guys know how I voted and that I agree with the results so far.

We'll check the kicker poll again later in the week, but I thought we could do our own too.

I voted the players

[Gunning4Chelsea]

is Herr Kohler still available?

[The Old Lady Hertha]

Simple: players are not performing to their optimum level IMHO. Injuries hurt too, Metzelder has to come back to replace Brzenska, and Kehl would bring some further help.

[footyfan1]

Originally Posted by The Old Lady Hertha

Simple: players are not performing to their optimum level IMHO. Injuries hurt too, Metzelder has to come back to replace Brzenska, and Kehl would bring some further help.

Yes, I agree that Kehl and Metze would help a bit, but I still don't believe they are the overall solution. After all, this problem is not a new one at BVB. It's been going on for the past four or five years.

While I voted that this current "turbulence" is the fault of the players, I think the overall problem at BVB is lack of strong leadership within the team and as far as I'm concerned, that's MANAGEMENT'S FAULT!

I say the current turbulence is the player's fault because I believe they are the ones who failed when we should have had three points against Gladbach, Hannover and Bochum.

However, I think the OVERALL PROBLEM is the fault of management.

I really think the crap that went down with Frings and Sammer has scared BVB off from seeking out a hard-playing, outspoken "personality" for this team and honestly, I think that's exactly what we need.

An "Effejerk" type. Yes, I called for Barbarez, and I've had more than a few people mail me back gloating about what a bad season Barbarez is having so far at Leverkusen.

True. However, during the entire time I called for Barbarez, I always said his contribution would be more as a leader and a setup man than an actual goal scorer. And one other thing. The season isn't 10 matches old yet. He's getting close. That guy is no Delron Buckley! LOL!!

But this isn't about Barbarez or the fact that they didn't get a "leader-type" for this team.

It's about BVB management's lack of ability to self-criticize. I think Watzke, instead of talking so much about what BvM isn't doing, needs to take a look at what BvM IS doing with what he has. Watzke needs to look in the mirror and ask himself, "Did I do everything I possibly could to give this guy a top five team?"

I think the answer to that question is "No!"

They did just about everything, but they wound up giving BvM a younger, more inexperienced team and they expect him to produce improved winning results so quickly??

I think that's crazy.

No, we shouldn't draw at home 1-1 to the last place team. As far as I'm concerned, THAT was on the players. The Hannover collapse? The players. The Gladbach disappearance? The players.

However, it's not the fault of the players or BvM that there's a lack of EXPERIENCED LEADERSHIP on this team.

As far as I'm concerned, that's management's fault.

Even with the injuries and inexperience, this team is within striking distance of it goals for the season.

I do attribute a lot of that hardly anyone in the Bundesliga playing consistent football, but as I said in the Barbarez paragraph, the season isn't ten matches old yet. All these international and cup weeks at the start of the season are helping some clubs and killing others.

However, BvM stated in one of the articles leading up to the Cup Match tonight that it is good (He actually said "an advantage") for BVB to have another match so soon after the Bochum collapse, so I guess this Cup Week worked out for us. Let's see if the players perform tonight.

I'm expecting a win. If we lose, well, uh, I really don't want to think about what will happen if they perform badly again tonight.......

If there's any way possible, I hope management will address the lack of experienced leadership problem during the winter break. It's been a problem for years now. I think management finally has to take their chances and address the problem.

[footyfan1]

Originally Posted by Gunning4Chelsea

is Herr Kohler still available?

I believe he is.

[Psychosis hsv]

those who decide on which players to purchase. you wasted money purchasing Amoroso, Rosicky etc.

[footyfan1]

Originally Posted by Psychosis hsv

those who decide on which players to purchase. you wasted money purchasing Amoroso, Rosicky etc.

That has nothing to do with what we're discussing here. That's past history.


Keep celebrating man!

["Eisenfuß" Eilts]

Imo it´s the fault of the media.
But there is no option for it,
so i chose the players, because
they stood on the pitch.

[Psychosis hsv]

Originally Posted by footyfan1

That has nothing to do with what we're discussing here. That's past history.


Keep celebrating man!

things started to go wrong for bvb long ago when they sacked sammer. they haven't (YOU) played in c.league since he left