How many college teams are there

Discussion in 'College & Amateur Soccer' started by jeffconn, Oct 7, 2006.

  1. jeffconn

    jeffconn Member

    Jul 25, 2004
    Norfolk, VA, USA
    Club:
    Hampton Roads Piranhas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Did a little research on just how many college teams are in the USA. i checked out some websites and crunched some numbers. Some of the websites are outdated, and i had to count some of the listings by hand. There are a handful of colleges from Canada and Puerto Rico in these organizations too. So it's a rough estimate.

    NCAA Div. 1 195
    NCAA Div. 2 171
    NCAA Div. 3 383
    NAIA 205
    NCCAA 83
    USCAA 23
    That's roughly 1060 4-year colleges.

    As for community colleges and junior colleges (2-year schools):
    NJCAA Div. 1 115
    NJCAA Div. 3 74
    NWAACC 19
    CCLC 64
    That's 272 jucos playing men's soccer. And more than 1300 schools total. That's a lot of 18-25 year old guys in the college soccer system.
     
  2. JoeSoccerFan

    JoeSoccerFan Member+

    Aug 11, 2000
    ok, Sandon - name them all! :D
     
  3. ButlerBob

    ButlerBob Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 13, 2001
    Evanston, IL
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There is some duplication between some schools that are in the NCAA, NAIA and NCCAA. It's possible to be of the NCCAA and also either the NCAA or NAIA. For example Nyack College is a NCAA D3 school and NCAA school.
     
  4. jeffconn

    jeffconn Member

    Jul 25, 2004
    Norfolk, VA, USA
    Club:
    Hampton Roads Piranhas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I didn't catch that. Thanks. So, knock it down to only 1250 or so soccer programs. Much easier for pro scouts to follow that many colleges. :D
    However, i'm sure that there is NO duplication in the NAIA and NCAA listings, unless a school is switching organizations.
     
  5. Milwaukee fan

    Milwaukee fan New Member

    Aug 22, 2006
    Milwaukee or Iraq
  6. Dsocc

    Dsocc Member

    Feb 13, 2002
    Even at a 1250 schools, that's over 25,000 players. And a goodly number of those get scholarships of one variety or another. It's these non-professional opportunities that make professional player development in the US significantly different than any other country.
     
  7. finalball

    finalball New Member

    Jan 17, 2006
    Yeah, but not better in terms of development. 80 games in 4 years (if you are a starter and 90 minute player) vs. 400 games in 4 years for a european player aged 18-25. You can count the small minority of players that actually are relatively better in their senior year than when they came in as freshmen.
     
  8. Dsocc

    Dsocc Member

    Feb 13, 2002
    That wasn't my point. It had to do with the motivation of players who play at higher levels, and why professional player development faces more challenges in the US than anywhere else.
     
  9. sportsfan232323

    sportsfan232323 New Member

    Nov 11, 2005


    Dsocc is not saying college is better than academy for development

    BS has threaded the difference in European pro academy vs college for pro development and no one will say college is better. However college is all we have for now.

    College soccer may not be the best for the 1% that will become pros but it is a great experience for many of the other 99%

    Any college sport can be a great focus for students. It gives them a peer group with goals and hopeful a coach who can be a parent away from home to keep them from losing focus of academics with keg parties everywhere.

    Plus with team sports hopefully our kids will learn to become leaders and team players
     
  10. ButlerBob

    ButlerBob Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 13, 2001
    Evanston, IL
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    First of, thanks for making the effort of going through and counting all of the programs. I think that's a lot of good information there. I think it also shows that there is a lot of opportunities for youth soccer players after high school. Even with the increased development program for MLS, and the oppourtunties there is really only a small percentage of players that will go into these programs. Also, there will always be some players that will go to college and develop later. But I would imagine that over time this will become smaller. But for the near future it will still be a viable route.

    There is two level of schools the NCCAA, Division 1 and 2. Pretty much all of the Divison 2 are memembers of just the NCCAA. However, most of the members of the members of Division 1 are also members of the NCCAA and either the NCAA or NAIA. I'm a volunteer coach at a NAIA school and we are also a member of the NCCAA and have taken part in both organizations post season tournaments. Here is a list of some schools that are in both; Hope International, Warner Pacific College, Judson College, Cedarville University, Mid American Nazarene. Thanks again for putting the list together.
     
  11. ClarkC

    ClarkC Member

    Dec 28, 2005
    Virginia
    College soccer might not be the best development environment, but that statement seems a bit extreme.
     
  12. JohnW

    JohnW Member

    Apr 27, 2001
    St. Paul
    That's correct. There are about 25 men's programs at the NCCAA DII level, and I would say maybe 6-7 either have a second affiliation or are in the process of getting one. The popular choice is to also be affiliated with NCAA Div 3.
     
  13. Aidan90

    Aidan90 New Member

    Oct 6, 2006
    Those are impressive numbers. I hadn't give much thought to the subject before, but I'm sure I would have guessed the number of schools to be fewer than that.
     

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