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15 Aug 2006, 05:24 AM
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Champions Lgue Junkie
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Garmisch, Germany
Supporter: Borussia Dortmund, Manchester United FC, FC Barcelona
Foe: FC Schalke 04, Chelsea FC
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2006/2007 BVB Amateurs Update [R]
I wanted to start something on the amateur side since some of the players might eventually play a role in this season for the Bundesliga team too.
Right now, the news isn't that good. Our boys lost at home this past weekend to HSV's amateur team, 2-1. The week before, our boys lost at St. Pauli by the same score.
We opened the season with a goalless draw against VfB Luebeck.
Our boys are in 13th place, one place above the relegation zone only because we've scored one goal more than Kickers Emden.
Actually, I don't worry about it too much because we've got kids playing amongst teams trying to get to the 2. Bundesliga.
That being said, the amateur teams of Bremen, Hertha and HSV are all ahead of our boys and the amateur teams of Leverkusen and Gladbach are below us at the moment......
"Kicker" says in the HSV match we were too "harmless" on offense and were disorganized in defense. The offensive part sounds just like the Bundesliga team last season, doesn't it??
Also, "kicker" said there were too many holes between the midfield and defense and Hamburg used them to create dangerous chances the whole match. Before HSV scored their first goal, one of their players hit the post and later, the guy who scored the second goal also hit the post.
Our goal was scored by Sahr Senesie in the 82nd minute, but by "kicker's" account the match was "over" by then.
Our lineup was: Meier, M. Heitmeier, Hünemeier, Neumeister, Vrzogic, Saka, Solga, Gordon, Kohlmann, Tyrala, Sensie
Substitutions were: 46th minute, Amachaibou for Saka and A. Heitmeier for Solga
"kicker" says our best players were Tyrala and Amachaibou.
Does anyone know if Pirson is injured? I'm wondering why Meier played.
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16 Aug 2006, 04:29 AM
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BigSoccer Member
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Kiel, Germany
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Re: 2006/2007 BVB Amateurs Update [R]
hmm It won't matter where we finish ... next season or the season after that , only the first 9 teams of each regionalliga survive the others get "relegated" including ALL Amateur teams. DFL is planning a new third bundesliga and the allready got the Ok
3 BL :
- No 2nd Teams of first league teams
- only the best 9 from BOTH Regionalligen
- no North/South anymore, but one League from north <-> south
- higher % of the the TV money than the old regionalliga teams got before
thats whats clear by now
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16 Aug 2006, 10:59 AM
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Champions Lgue Junkie
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Garmisch, Germany
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Re: 2006/2007 BVB Amateurs Update [R]
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Originally Posted by HeyaBVB
hmm It won't matter where we finish ... next season or the season after that , only the first 9 teams of each regionalliga survive the others get "relegated" including ALL Amateur teams. DFL is planning a new third bundesliga and the allready got the Ok
3 BL :
- No 2nd Teams of first league teams
- only the best 9 from BOTH Regionalligen
- no North/South anymore, but one League from north <-> south
- higher % of the the TV money than the old regionalliga teams got before
thats whats clear by now
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That's not a "relegation". That's just whether they stay "Regionalliga" or not, so it does matter where we finish.
I'd rather our team stay in the Regionalliga than be relegated to the Oberliga.
THAT was the question!
That 3rd Bundesliga idea has been on the shelf for a long time. I wondered when they would finally do it.
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24 Aug 2006, 10:01 AM
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Champions Lgue Junkie
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Garmisch, Germany
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Re: 2006/2007 BVB Amateurs Update [R]
Guys, not good news again from our amateur team last week. I'm surprised "HeyaBVB" didn't report on this because his big "hometown club", Holstein Kiel, ripped the BVB reserves 5-1 last weekend in Kiel.
Once again, Sahr Senesie, who just can't seem to stick with the BL team, scored our guys' only goal.
Our boys are in the relegation zone, next to last place with one point from four matches. Only SV Wihelmshaven, with zero points from three matches stands between our boys and last place.
Their next match is this Sunday at home against the Gladbach reserves. "Home" for the reserve team is Stadion Rote Erde, BVB's old home pitch, directly next to the Westfalenstadion.
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24 Aug 2006, 01:20 PM
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BigSoccer Member
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Kiel, Germany
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Re: 2006/2007 BVB Amateurs Update [R]
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Originally Posted by footyfan1
Guys, not good news again from our amateur team last week. I'm surprised "HeyaBVB" didn't report on this because his big "hometown club", Holstein Kiel, ripped the BVB reserves 5-1 last weekend in Kiel.
Once again, Sahr Senesie, who just can't seem to stick with the BL team, scored our guys' only goal.
Our boys are in the relegation zone, next to last place with one point from four matches. Only SV Wihelmshaven, with zero points from three matches stands between our boys and last place.
Their next match is this Sunday at home against the Gladbach reserves. "Home" for the reserve team is Stadion Rote Erde, BVB's old home pitch, directly next to the Westfalenstadion.
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honestly ... when BVB faces Kiel I am a Borusse
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24 Aug 2006, 01:29 PM
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Champions Lgue Junkie
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Re: 2006/2007 BVB Amateurs Update [R]
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Originally Posted by HeyaBVB
honestly ... when BVB faces Kiel I am a Borusse 
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I didn't mean to imply anything different. Just like all those years I went to see BVB in the Frankenstadion. I was a Borusse. Always and forever no matter where I am.
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28 Aug 2006, 12:15 PM
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Champions Lgue Junkie
Join Date: Oct 2003
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Re: 2006/2007 BVB Amateurs Update [R]
Our boys beat Gladbach amateurs this weekend 2-1 at Stadion Rote Erde. Our goals were scored by Vrzogic in the 44th minute and Solga in the 85th minute. Schuchardt scored the opening goal for Gladbach in the in the 4th minute.
Gladbach keeper Melka stopped a penalty shot by Saka in the 69th minute.
Our boys are now in 16th place in the 19 team league. Places 15 through 19 are relegation places. We are in the relegation zone by goal difference as places 13 through 16 all have four points.
We are at -5. The team in the first safety position, Kickers Emden, are at
-2. Fortuna Duesseldorf, between us and Emden, are at -3.
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28 Aug 2006, 12:54 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Westfalenstadion
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Re: 2006/2007 BVB Amateurs Update [R]
Vrzogic's goal was a nice free kick.
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29 Aug 2006, 02:36 AM
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Champions Lgue Junkie
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Garmisch, Germany
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Re: 2006/2007 BVB Amateurs Update [R]
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Originally Posted by jonam
Vrzogic's goal was a nice free kick.
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Cool. I hope he's truly as talented as the club says he is......
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06 Sep 2006, 04:20 AM
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Champions Lgue Junkie
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Re: 2006/2007 BVB Amateurs Update [R]
The amateurs went to Ahlen last weekend and won 2-0. Both goals were scored by seemingly "long time talent" Sahr Senesie in the 45th and 75th minutes. Senesie, who again has been regarded as a "talent to look out for" by BVB for quite awhile now, may just shape up to be a nice Odonkor replacement.
Lars Ricken played in central midfield for the amateurs and apparently played quite well, giving the amateur team the creativity it lacked in central midfield since the selling of Nizamettin Caliksan.
Here's our lineup for the match:
BVB 2: Meier (22. Pirson) Hillenbrand, Marc Heitmeier, Hünemeier, Parensen - Akgün, Eggert, Ricken, Vrzogic (82. Gordon) - Senesie, Tyrala (57. Saka).
Goals: 0:1 Senesie (45.); 0:2 Senesie (75.).
Backup keeper Bernd Meier destroyed his knee in this match and will undergo surgery. He will be out 6 to 8 months. With the transfer window now closed, BVB is not able to sign a keeper from another club. So, I'm guessing that Soren Pirson is now our new #2 at least until the winter break when I'm sure BVB will look to sign another keeper at least on loan for the rest of the season.
I'm privately hoping that we'll get Dennis Gentenaar back on loan from Ajax, but it would not make sense for him to go from a CL club in Ajax, where he's a backup, to us, where he would just be backing up again for probably less money. I just remember what Gentenaar did for us last season and he'll be a player I will always welcome back to BVB.
I think we'll wind up asking Gladbach for their third keeper, Michael Melka, as was rumored during this past off-season.
I hope to post where our guys are in the standings later today. I have not picked up a "kicker" or "SportBild" this week as of yet. I've been very busy, but wanted to get the word out that our amateur guys finally won with help from Lars Ricken.
However, am I the only one wondering why it was Ricken down there helping the amateurs and not Nuri Sahin? Was Sahin called up for Turkey??
Thanks!
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