[nikolaos1981]

There is a golden boot,a golden ball,what about a golden ''traitor''?By that,I mean any player who played under any circumstances for the eternal rival of the club that he loved.I suppose Figo is an obvious choice,but I am wondering if there are any less known alternatives.For example in Greece PAOK fans back in the 70's went mad,when their best player ever(George Kudas)was signed by Olympiakos.Eventually the transfer was cancelled,due to their mobilisation!If I'm not mistaken Raul played for Atletico Madrid in his early age and Owen's father is an Everton veteran player!I vote Mimis Domazos,Panathinaikos's best player of all time who captained Panathinaikos in 1971 Wembley's champions cup final against Ajax and led them to 9(!)domestic league wins during his career,although he was a fan of Olympiakos!

[guado]

Originally Posted by nikolaos1981

There is a golden boot,a golden ball,what about a golden ''traitor''?By that,I mean any player who played under any circumstances for the eternal rival of the club that he loved.I suppose Figo is an obvious choice,but I am wondering if there are any less known alternatives.For example in Greece PAOK fans back in the 70's went mad,when their best player ever(George Kudas)was signed by Olympiakos.Eventually the transfer was cancelled,due to their mobilisation!If I'm not mistaken Raul played for Atletico Madrid in his early age and Owen's father is an Everton veteran player!I vote Mimis Domazos,Panathinaikos's best player of all time who captained Panathinaikos in 1971 Wembley's champions cup final against Ajax and led them to 9(!)domestic league wins during his career,although he was a fan of Olympiakos!

raul was with the atletico youth teams, until gil desolved them to save money.

[nikolaos1981]

Originally Posted by guado

raul was with the atletico youth teams, until gil desolved them to save money.

Still,if I was in his shoes I would play for any other club,but Atletico's eternal rival.Raul was pretty talented,he could play for any club he liked,I don't think he was forced to choose the arch rivals.

[guado]

Originally Posted by nikolaos1981

Still,if I was in his shoes I would play for any other club,but Atletico's eternal rival.Raul was pretty talented,he could play for any club he liked,I don't think he was forced to choose the arch rivals.

i think it was moreso picking another big club in madrid, but yeah if you're loyal you could look elsewhere.

[nikolaos1981]

by the way,which club is called the ''black lions''(leones negros)?

[guado]

i put the name of my winning eleven team on my profile.

leones negros is a now defunct team from the university of guadalajara.



it used to be my dad's favorite team, and i had an uncle who played for their youth system and was set to debut, but he broke his leg twice and never played with the senior team.

[comme]

Sol Campbell obviously.

[chapulin]

Originally Posted by guado

i put the name of my <a style='text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 3px double;' href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=22&k=winning%20eleven" onmouseover="window.status='winning eleven'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">winning eleven</a> team on my profile.

leones negros is a now defunct team from the university of guadalajara.



it used to be my dad's favorite team, and i had an uncle who played for their youth system and was set to debut, but he broke his leg twice and never played with the senior team.

That's weird. I had an uncle too that was playing on the first team in the preseason of the 81-82 season (it might be 82-83).

In a practice, "el gato" chavez broke his leg and he returned to the states.

He's really good friends with Daniel Guzman and Octavio Mora, and they had high hopes for him. Nothing happened, obviously.

[guado]

Originally Posted by Chapulin

That's weird. I had an uncle too that was playing on the first team in the preseason of the 81-82 season (it might be 82-83).

In a practice, "el gato" chavez broke his leg and he returned to the states.

He's really good friends with Daniel Guzman and Octavio Mora, and they had high hopes for him. Nothing happened, obviously.

my uncle's name is ricardo perez.

he was a tronco center forward, and a good jumper (also did high jump, and won several competitions.)

he wasn't so good with his feet, but he was a monster in the air.

the week he's set to debut (it was either 92 or 93), one of the dirtiest hacks on his team breaks his leg.

i remember seeing him in crutches. he had them for a few months.

he made a comeback, and broke his leg again. he tried a third time, as a center back, but he was too debilitated.

he ended up graduating and became a lawyer.

[dor02]

Originally Posted by nikolaos1981

I vote Mimis Domazos,Panathinaikos's best player of all time who captained Panathinaikos in 1971 Wembley's champions cup final against Ajax and led them to 9 domestic league wins during his career,although he was a fan of Olympiakos!

I thought that honour would go to Krzysztof Warzycha.

The "Golden Traitor" award should go to Luis Figo for moving from Barca to Real.