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15 Jul 2006, 05:53 AM
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Soccer as part of political history
-- We have the soccer wars in Central America.
-- Pele also stopped a civil war somewhere in Africa so that the fans can see him.
-- The famous game where Dynamo Kyve would rather die than losing to the Germans.
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20 Jul 2006, 01:50 AM
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Re: Soccer as part of political history
Any time any of the Home Nations play each other.
Netherlands v West Germany in 1974. That would have made a lot of people feel better about the war. Wim van Hanegem lost several family members, including a father and a few siblings, to the German gun, and played his head off.
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20 Jul 2006, 04:22 AM
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Re: Soccer as part of political history
Argentina vs England at Mexico 86. That brought back memories of the war in the Falkland Islands.
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20 Jul 2006, 06:23 AM
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Re: Soccer as part of political history
Kuwait refused to play Iraq during and after Gulf War I.
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20 Jul 2006, 11:52 AM
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Re: Soccer as part of political history
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Originally Posted by PsychedelicCeltic
Netherlands v West Germany in 1974. That would have made a lot of people feel better about the war. Wim van Hanegem lost several family members, including a father and a few siblings, to the German gun, and played his head off.
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On that note, maybe it's time the Dutch schedule a game vs. Indonesia? I think a lot of Indonesians would feel better about the Independence War against the Dutch (1945-49), in which 150,000 Indonesians were murdered by the Dutch, if they'd get a chance to beat their former colonial masters.
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20 Jul 2006, 11:58 AM
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Re: Soccer as part of political history
These arguments are pointless, because you have to be pretty blind to think an entire country is to blame for your losses. Understandable, but stupid.
We Dutch know we brought slavery to an extreme, the Germans know their people murdered countless Jews and many more. Don't turn history into fuel for a racist engine.
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20 Jul 2006, 12:01 PM
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Re: Soccer as part of political history
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These arguments are pointless, because you have to be pretty blind to think an entire country is to blame for your losses. Understandable, but stupid.
We Dutch know we brought slavery to an extreme, the Germans know their people murdered countless Jews and many more. Don't turn history into fuel for a racist engine.
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20 Jul 2006, 12:02 PM
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Re: Soccer as part of political history
Anyone who's going to get this thread closed or atleast moved to world rivalries.
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20 Jul 2006, 12:56 PM
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All fair points, I'm tired of hearing about Wim van Hanegem's family history having anything to do with the 1974 World Cup final. Indeed, pointless. But I don't see this thread turning history into a fuel for a racist engine. Let's not overdo it with the political correctness.
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21 Jul 2006, 03:39 AM
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Re: Soccer as part of political history
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