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19 Jun 2006, 02:55 PM
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Your Starting 11 Against Togo
Henry-Trezeguet
Malouda-Dhorasoo
Makelele-Diarra
Silvestre-Gallas-Thuram-Sagnol
Barthez
3 replacements will be:
-Ribery for Dhorasoo at halftime
-Saha for Trezeguet in case of problems (scoring or otherwise)
-Vieira for Diarra in case of problems (unlikely, most likely the 3rd sub will be an misc sub depending on how game goes)
Reasoning:
Reason I start Diarra instead of Vieira is I think we need more than 30 minutes' worth of energy. The reason we stopped playing after 30 minutes against Korea is, I think, old age. Love Vieira, but he's not the runner we need.
Reason I start Trezeguet instead of Saha is that the reason I believe the Henry/Trezeguet duo has been lackluster in the past is because of relatively competent defenses that have been faced. If Trezeguet is faced with a porous defence, I think the floodgates could open.
Reason for Dhorasoo starting is that we have seen Ribery is great and energetic but he seems to have trouble pacing himself. I want to make sure we get his full energy for a half time.
Overall reasoning:
This team is much younger than its previous counterparts. The reason I am making such a drastic change is because the first two games lacked energy from the midfield with a few exceptions. I want a fully energetic midfield. Our younger, second string midfielders are actually quite skilled. We're giving up very little skill for a lot of energy by doing this.
Please tell us who you think should be the starting 11.
Last edited by Zaius; 19 Jun 2006 at 03:49 PM.
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19 Jun 2006, 03:06 PM
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Re: Your Starting 11 For Togo
Barthez
Sagnol Thuram Gallas Givet
Makelele
Wiltord Malouda
Dhorasoo
Trezeguet Henry
Sub Ribery for either Wiltord or Dhorasoo depending on whos struggling
Sub Malouda for Saha if were not winning by 2 goals by the 60-65 min.
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19 Jun 2006, 04:35 PM
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Re: Your Starting 11 Against Togo
I'd be willing to go with a more radical approach: 4-3-3
Barthez
Sagnol Thuram Gallas Givet
Makelele
Dhorasoo Malouda
Saha Trezeguet Henry
Sub: Dhorasoo- Ribery and Maloud- Govou and Makelele - Vieira
Let the goal feasting beginning if we can achieve that at least. Who knew I'd ever have question such a feat with such offensive players as Saha, Trezeguet, and Henry!?!
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19 Jun 2006, 05:00 PM
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Re: Your Starting 11 Against Togo
Whatever the line-up I think it is imperative to get rid of the 2 defensive mids strategy. Vieira shouldn't start at all IMO.
I think a 4-4-2 or a 4-3-3 with only Makelele in front of the back 4 will provide the much needed attacking strength to score more goals.
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19 Jun 2006, 05:08 PM
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Re: Your Starting 11 Against Togo
Precisely, it's time to Joga Bonito...accelerate the pace of the game, bring back the fluidity lost in the game! We need to score, we need moral victories here...with the quality of players we have we should be able to run this score up!
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Originally Posted by lefutur
Whatever the line-up I think it is imperative to get rid of the 2 defensive mids strategy. Vieira shouldn't start at all IMO.
I think a 4-4-2 or a 4-3-3 with only Makelele in front of the back 4 will provide the much needed attacking strength to score more goals.
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19 Jun 2006, 05:19 PM
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Re: Your Starting 11 Against Togo
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Originally Posted by lefutur
Whatever the line-up I think it is imperative to get rid of the 2 defensive mids strategy. Vieira shouldn't start at all IMO.
I think a 4-4-2 or a 4-3-3 with only Makelele in front of the back 4 will provide the much needed attacking strength to score more goals.
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You know what, I think you're right. There's no need for 2 defensive midfields. Let's try 4-1-2-3:
Henry-Trezeguet-Saha
Malouda-Dhorasoo
Makelele
Silvestre-Gallas-Thuram-Sagnol
Barthez
With Ribery for Malouda, Vieira for Makelele if necessary, and Govou for any of the offensive midfielders/forwards that needs to be replaced.
I like this more! my lineup pretty much looks like allezlesbleusno1's lineup. Let's hope Domenech's lineup looks like ours (doubtful  )
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19 Jun 2006, 06:03 PM
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Re: Your Starting 11 Against Togo
You know what? Let's start Ribery - he couldn't handle his first start against the swiss, ok fine. But a start against togo in a critical match will send him a clear message, and hopefully, instill him with the confidence he lead the attacking midfield. It's clear that people are looking to him anyways - hell, even Zidane said when Franck gets on the pitch, everybody looks for him (and not simply because he has fresh legs)
No doubt starting him would be a gamble, but I have a gut feeling that he is up to the challenge.
Or perhaps i'm just going crazy.
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19 Jun 2006, 06:06 PM
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Re: Your Starting 11 Against Togo
Sorry wasn't able to throw caution and the wind, and I tried to make something that could actually envision Domenech using. If I had my way we would be running a 4-3-3 right now.
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19 Jun 2006, 07:10 PM
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Re: Your Starting 11 Against Togo
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Originally Posted by AfrcnHrbMan
Sorry wasn't able to throw caution and the wind, and I tried to make something that could actually envision Domenech using. If I had my way we would be running a 4-3-3 right now.
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I think everyone but Domenech would. What are the chances that the only guy who wouldn't run a 4-3-3 happens to be the coach?
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19 Jun 2006, 10:50 PM
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Re: Your Starting 11 Against Togo
Ce mardi dans L'Equipe, les schémas tactiques que le selectionneur des Bleus, Raymond Domenech, pourrait appliquer pour vaincre le Togo, vendredi, à Cologne, sans Zinédine Zidane.
Première option : un n°10 dans le même système de jeu avec Vikash Dhorasoo, ce qui permettrait de maintenir le 4-2-3-1, utilisé depuis le début de la Coupe du monde. Deuxième option : un n°10 en changeant de système avec, par exemple la titularisation de Franck Ribéry et le recours au 4-3-1-2. Troisième option : sans n°10 avec une ou deux pointes et l'adoption d'un 4-4-2, qui permettrait le retour de Louis Saha ou de David Trezeguet aux côtés de Thierry Henry.
Although I'd rather go with a more aggressive 4-3-3 formation, I would rather settle with the 4-4-2, than the 4-2-3-1 or the 4-3-1-2!
http://fr.sports.yahoo.com/20062006/...-l-equipe.html
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