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Old 29 Jul 2002, 11:11 AM   #1
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i was observing a game before one of mine a few months ago, and an interesting thing happened. i meant to put it on here then, but never got around to it. and it would've been bombed anyway.

OK. here's what happened. defender (blue) passes ball to GK. referee whistles. IFK...attackers(red) take kick. blue defender is standing on goal line, jumps w/ his arm up. the ball hit his arm and then crossed the goal line. goal disallowed. PK. goal scored.

what do u all think you would have done? i think i would've allowed the goal. it was IFK, but he played the ball with his arm...then i would've cautioned him for USB...he didn't DOGSO bc it went in, but he attempted to.

feedback? (this was this referees second season. he certified with me...this was a U13 game.)
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Old 29 Jul 2002, 11:13 AM   #2
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simple advantage played. goal, no booking, no penalty.
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Old 29 Jul 2002, 11:15 AM   #3
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simple advantage played. goal, no booking, no penalty.
Agree, with caviat that I would tell the attempted offender that he nearly earned a send off.....
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Old 29 Jul 2002, 11:42 AM   #4
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Did the referee in question at least caution the defender when he awarded the PK? Did you give him any feedback on the play after the game? Sounds like it was a good teaching moment.
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Old 29 Jul 2002, 11:47 AM   #5
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if i awarded a pk which i wouldt have i woulda red carded him
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Old 29 Jul 2002, 11:53 AM   #6
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Can you allow the goal, and still card the kid for an intentional handball?
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Old 29 Jul 2002, 11:54 AM   #7
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Play advantage, allow the goal. Yellow card the player, tell him if he had stopped the goal, it would be red.
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Old 29 Jul 2002, 11:56 AM   #8
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I think the referee in this case did the right thing. Straight PK, no caution, no send-off.

Remember, since the foul by the defender did not deny an obvious goal scoring opportunity, since the opportunity did not pre-exist the foul, nor could it be called tactical, no misconduct occurred. It was just a penal foul.

Further, I do not believe it would be good game management to allow the goal, and consider the offense triflijng, because it did effect play, even though not in the normal sense.

Now, if it were a direct kick, then I would have no problem allowing the goal, and possibly considering unsporting behavior, but in this case, I think not.
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Play advantage, allow the goal. Yellow card the player, tell him if he had stopped the goal, it would be red.
you can't do both within the rules
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Old 29 Jul 2002, 11:59 AM   #10
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Just because it was an Indirect, do we know what the goal might not have decided to touch it with his fingertips? Not handing out any card is not right. He denied a possibly scoring opertunity.
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