[lotfilms]

Would anyone happen to the 1970 Braziliian team's formation (the team second only to the 1958 class/skill wise)?


I thinking somewhere along the lines of:



-----------------Felix------------------\
-----------Brito-----Piazza-------------- Defense
C. Alberto-------------------Everaldo---/

--Clodoaldo
------------Gerson
--------------------Rivelino (as a false left winger?)


Jairzinho(as a right winger?)--Pele--Tostao




????
But I'm not really too sure. can anyone help?

[Ombak]

Originally Posted by lotfilms

Would anyone happen to the 1970 Braziliian team's formation (the team second only to the 1958 class/skill wise)?

Essentially it was:

----- Clodoaldo ----- Gérson -----

------------ Pelé ------------

Jairzinho ---- Tostão ---- Rivelino

But only Jairzinho was really an out-and-out forward. Tostão was a number 10 for his club - not a center-forward and Rivelino was a withdrawn left-wing here and a number 10 for his club.

Similarly Gerson and Clodoaldo, while both deep-lying midfielders on paper, had very different roles.

While some people would refer to it as a 4-3-3 it was really a very flexible midfield where Pelé, Gérson, Tostão and Rivelino all played on both sides of the ball. Curiously, Clodoaldo, the one who played almost exclusively on the defensive side, scored his only career goal for Brazil at the World Cup, whereas Jairzinho of course scored in every game.

Also, Piazza, on the backline, was a defensive midfielder for his club who was converted to central defense.

[lotfilms]

Regarding Pelé being in midfield... shouldn't he be a more inlying forward, like a second-striker? Also, should Rivelino perhaps be a false foward, or false winger, like Zagallo in 58?

Or is it that Pelé, Rivelino, and Tostao were all second-strikers, contributing to the play (thereby making it more free flowing), and ossacionally getting a shot on goal?


Finally wan't Gerson more in the center?

[Ombak]

Originally Posted by lotfilms

Regarding Pelé being in midfield... shouldn't he be a more inlying forward, like a second-striker? Also, should Rivelino perhaps be a false foward, or false winger, like Zagallo in 58?

Yes, Rivelino essentially became a midfielder. Pelé was not limited to being a second-striker in 1970 and it was indeed a very free-flowing formation for those guys.

Finally wan't Gerson more in the center?

Yes, essentially he was a Pirlo type player.

[dor02]

Where would Paulo Cesar play whenever he was on?

[lotfilms]

Originally Posted by dor02

Where would Paulo Cesar play whenever he was on?

I think he took Gerson's place against England.

Alsok Ombak, thanks a bunhc!

[Kubala]

Originally Posted by Ombak

Curiously, Clodoaldo, the one who played almost exclusively on the defensive side, scored his only career goal for Brazil at the World Cup, whereas Jairzinho of course scored in every game.

How good was Clodoaldo as a player, looking at his whole career?
I know he played a great WC1970 but I don't know whether it might be something exceptional (there have been several players who played a tournament much over their real skill level, like Fontaine in WC1958 or Schillaci in WC1990) or he was really a very good player.
Same, I don't know why it seemed to disappear at an international level after the WC ... injuries or whatever else?

[Excape Goat]

I think Tostoa lined up as the striker, but played on the wing or midfield throughout the game.

[Ombak]

Originally Posted by Excape Goat

I think Tostoa lined up as the striker, but played on the wing or midfield throughout the game.

Yeah, as you can see form where he ended up during the play that lead to the goal against England. Tostao's job was all about creating space for others, hustling, sacrificing for the team. He might have a similar physical shape to Romario, but his game was the polar opposite.

He still scored a few goals though.

In fact everyone in that midfield and forward starting set scored during the World Cup.

[Gregoriak]

Originally Posted by Kubala

How good was Clodoaldo as a player, looking at his whole career?
I know he played a great WC1970 but I don't know whether it might be something exceptional (there have been several players who played a tournament much over their real skill level, like Fontaine in WC1958 or Schillaci in WC1990) or he was really a very good player.
Same, I don't know why it seemed to disappear at an international level after the WC ... injuries or whatever else?

I asked myself the same question about a year ago and started a thread down in the Brazil forum. You can check it here.