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Old 28 Jul 2002, 11:06 AM   #1
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Here's the link. Based on this, and some of the comments Zack has made here on BS, there seems to be some bad blood between Zack and the Times.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/sport...8-85303534.htm

And check out this little ditty from Ray. Man, does this guy have a brass pair. His team couldn't score in a whorehouse and he's taking out the paying fans. $hit, the way the team is playing, he AND Zack ought to be appologizing to the fans!

"We don't have any home-field advantage," Hudson said. "Home-field advantage? The Screaming Eagles the Barra Brava, all the wonderful fans we've got, they've got to be putting their hands up. Maybe we should just tell them to be quiet. Let's not have a great atmosphere. Let's not get everybody behind your team and screaming blue murder for your colors. Let's not do that. Let's play it in a [expletive] monastery."
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Old 28 Jul 2002, 11:13 AM   #2
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Actually, I thought Ray meant the officiating was bad when he said that. I think he's saying something to the effect of "we have a great crowd and still don't get any calls, so we may as well be playing in a monastary".
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Old 28 Jul 2002, 11:16 AM   #3
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I think you may have misunderstood his quote. I think he was saying that the fans WERE really loud and supportive but that the team didn't live up to it. Basically, that the effort by the fans was wasted and he's surprised that we (the fans) didn't just throw up our hands and say that we give up.
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Old 28 Jul 2002, 11:37 AM   #4
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Ken Wright is an idiot. He completely missed on another quote in one of his articles.
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Old 28 Jul 2002, 11:37 AM   #5
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-I agree, Sandon, you are not reading his quote right. He is looking for an atmosphere like Saprissa, Costa Rica, where ref's are intimdated into calling game where the home side gets the benefit of the doubt. Since we don't seem to get these calls he was exagerating about playing in a silent stadium, since the crowds has very little effect. The players pickup their level of play but right now teams and officals have no fear of RFK.

-Did Ken go to the same game we did?? Did he miss all the handballs???? Like the one Heaps used to settle the ball before his goal. Did he go to journalism school??? It seems he is often taking quotes and twisting them to fit his article. Maybe he should go back to basics. For right now Ken just give the score, attendance, and the time a date of the next game, until you can handle this writting gig.
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Old 28 Jul 2002, 11:39 AM   #6
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I agree, Sandon, you are not reading his quote right. He is looking for an atmosphere like Saprissa, Costa Rica, where ref's are intimdated into calling game where the home side gets the benefit of the doubt. Since we don't seem to get these calls he was exagerating about playing in a silent stadium, since the crowds has very little effect. The players pickup their level of play but right now teams and officals have no fear of RFK.
Bags of urine and some knives should turn this problem around.

Oh wait, and we all thought bringing in Eliseo was about an attendence bump.


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Old 28 Jul 2002, 11:44 AM   #7
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Ken Wright is an idiot. He completely missed on another quote in one of his articles.
This article is libelous... as Diceson's transcript of the whole quote CLEARLY indicates, Ray was actually saying that he doesn't understand why we get no calls despite having such a loud crowd.

Ken Wright should be banned from RFK. His cheap-shot at Stephen Zack after blatantly misquoting him earlier in the week is pathetic.

I'd like to nail him with a urine bag.
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Old 28 Jul 2002, 11:59 AM   #8
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OK, my bad. Totally, my bad. I just read Diceson's stuff and got to read the question that preceded Ray's quote on the fans and the whole quote.

Having read the entire context, it's pretty obvious the quote was misconstrued in the Times, which is pretty irresponsible and unfair.

Maybe the guy made an honest mistake but it sure seems like he was using that quote to fit into an agenda.

I basically only read the Times because of their soccer coverage - they had a great piece on Benny yesterday - but if it's gonna be misleading like this, I'm not gonna bother.

Again, my bad and I'm sincerely sorry for lashing out at Ray after reading only the part of the quote that was in the Times.
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I'd like to nail him with a urine bag.
You should go for it. After all he'd probably just blame Kevin Payne, or maybe even Phil Anshutz.
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Old 28 Jul 2002, 12:06 PM   #10
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OK, my bad. Totally, my bad. I just read Diceson's stuff and got to read the question that preceded Ray's quote on the fans and the whole quote.

Having read the entire context, it's pretty obvious the quote was misconstrued in the Times, which is pretty irresponsible and unfair.

Maybe the guy made an honest mistake but it sure seems like he was using that quote to fit into an agenda.

I basically only read the Times because of their soccer coverage - they had a great piece on Benny yesterday - but if it's gonna be misleading like this, I'm not gonna bother.

Again, my bad and I'm sincerely sorry for lashing out at Ray after reading only the part of the quote that was in the Times.

I, too, just read Diceson's quotes and I don't see how anyone could accidentally misunderstand what Hudson was trying to say.

Wright clearly misrepresented Ray's meaning in the Times article. This is too bad because Ray's support among fans is starting to teeter and it would be a shame to have casual fans turned against Ray over something he didn't say.
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