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Old 28 Jul 2002, 05:00 AM   #1
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Default Baseball may bring team to New Jersey/the Meadowlands

I'm listening to late night sports radio and that's what the guy said, based on an article coming out in Sunday's New York Post. It's a bargaining chip in the current baseball negotations. They might move the Marlins there. I didn't really get any more details but I'm sure the link will be up soon for you guys on the East Coast.

The Metros may play in Rochester after all!!!
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Old 28 Jul 2002, 05:09 AM   #2
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I don't know how well a NJ team would do. We already have the Mets and Yankees. Jersey makes up a lot of both teams fan bases. I think it'd be a tough sell. Plus you look at the NJ Devils who have attendance problems because of the Meadowlands. Traffic there is terrible. So I think an upstart baseball team wouldn't really draw much.
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Old 28 Jul 2002, 08:38 AM   #3
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Wouldn't the Yankees and Mets get a veto of anything moving in on their territority? As i understood it this is even an item that has to be negotiated with Angelos (Baltimore) about moving a team to Washington, an hour away. I can't imagine that Steinbrenner wouldn't get an effective veto over this like he has an effective veto over everything else that might save that sport....
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Old 28 Jul 2002, 11:32 AM   #4
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The Mets and Yankees would be well paid to allow another team into the area. Likewise for the Orioles.

The team would be well-supported. Baseball fans in the NYC area could support 5 MLB teams. The history of success of baseball in NYC has developed a very large fandom. Parents will take kids to baseball games, business reps will take their clients to baseball games, etc, and they will take them to the closest ballpark. Why shlep over the GWB if you don't have to?

The reason I don't expect it to happen is that baseball does not do anything that is intelligent. They would rather have a team in Montreal than in Brooklyn.
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Old 28 Jul 2002, 11:44 AM   #5
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Because baseball's culture is ruled by the big Media, the average fan doesn't have a decent on-line forum to vent, so ironically, some of the best Baseball talk ends up here in BigSoccer.

This is easy. After the strike and the massive contraction that is coming, MLB Baseball will end up where it already is, namely a regional professional sport followed in some parts of the US and Canada, much like Hockey used to be. So, there may be as many as 4 teams in the New York area. (Yanks, Mets, a NJ team and one on Long Island) There will be a National League team in Boston. There will be a team in DC, a 3rd Team in the LA Basin, probably the new city of San Fernado Valley, and so-on. All being teams moved from defunct cities. That is how they will try to not bankrupt their buddy owners, and still maintain the illusion of a National sport. That all noted...WHO CARES? Isn't this a Soccer forum?
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This Saturday I went to see the Mets for the first time ever at Shea. I only went cause I was a REDS fan growing up and wanted to check them out.
Had to be the most boring game I have ever witnessed. We left after 9 with the score 1x1.
I sat there wondering how the US media and public have the balls to say soccer is slow and boring. It was painful to sit there. Basicly the only way to survive a baseball game and pass time is to talk with your friends and later walk around the stadium to get a look at different angles. Maybe thats why its called the national passtime. The game was slow, boring, very litlle atleticism was going on (outfieldrs on their knee waiting for action, coaches talking to pitchers,ZZZzz).
By the Top of the fifth I had calculated that a soccer game would be ending at that moment. That was probably my last MLB game I will ever attend and this coming from a guy that hit his peak of baseball fanatisism from 92 to 96 when I was really into it for some odd reason (maybe no MLS?)
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This Saturday I went to see the Mets for the first time ever at Shea. I only went cause I was a REDS fan growing up and wanted to check them out.
Had to be the most boring game I have ever witnessed. We left after 9 with the score 1x1.
I sat there wondering how the US media and public have the balls to say soccer is slow and boring. It was painful to sit there. Basicly the only way to survive a baseball game and pass time is to talk with your friends and later walk around the stadium to get a look at different angles. Maybe thats why its called the national passtime. The game was slow, boring, very litlle atleticism was going on (outfieldrs on their knee waiting for action, coaches talking to pitchers,ZZZzz).
By the Top of the fifth I had calculated that a soccer game would be ending at that moment. That was probably my last MLB game I will ever attend and this coming from a guy that hit his peak of baseball fanatisism from 92 to 96 when I was really into it for some odd reason (maybe no MLS?)
Sorry about your first time out at Shea. It's too bad you couldn't have been to a more exciting game cuz when the crowd is pumped, you get pumped with them. But yeah, I've been a part of some pretty slow baseball games but Saturday's was one of the slowest I've seen.
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Wouldn't the Yankees and Mets get a veto of anything moving in on their territority?
Yes, the Yankees could interfere, but since whenever the subject of sharing the Yankees' local TV revenue, George talks about the sacred free market, he would never be so hypocritical as to disturb the Marlins' use of that free market.
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Old 28 Jul 2002, 04:09 PM   #9
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Because baseball's culture is ruled by the big Media, the average fan doesn't have a decent on-line forum to vent, so ironically, some of the best Baseball talk ends up here in BigSoccer.

This is easy. After the strike and the massive contraction that is coming, MLB Baseball will end up where it already is, namely a regional professional sport followed in some parts of the US and Canada, much like Hockey used to be. So, there may be as many as 4 teams in the New York area. (Yanks, Mets, a NJ team and one on Long Island) There will be a National League team in Boston. There will be a team in DC, a 3rd Team in the LA Basin, probably the new city of San Fernado Valley, and so-on. All being teams moved from defunct cities. That is how they will try to not bankrupt their buddy owners, and still maintain the illusion of a National sport. That all noted...WHO CARES? Isn't this a Soccer forum?
Dude, National League team in Boston? Where the hell would they play? They can't/won't solve what to do with Fenway until 2110 with the political climate, never mind bring in another team.
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Dude, National League team in Boston? Where the hell would they play? They can't/won't solve what to do with Fenway until 2110 with the political climate, never mind bring in another team.
Believe it or not, at the old/new Fenway. It has been done many times before, 2 baseball teams in the same stadium. DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE THE GREED OF BASEBALL OWNERS.
You do so at your own peril,
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