[Soccer-Six-Shooter]

DCU or even MLS should not have players with felonys or wife abusers. That dude beat up his wife real bad. Her arm in a sling, black and blue face, arms. I made it thru life thus far with no felonys or hitting girlfriends, child abusers, bribes, extortion, etc. Its not hard to do. Anyone with a felony is out of MLS. period. No criminal league.

Or if you beat up wife, commited a robbery or shot someone, its o.k, c'mon and play for DCU we dont care, we take troublemakers, as long you can put the ball in net.

[Jose L. Couso]

I did not know that the situation was that bad (I am not saying anything like some situations are better or worse). I just was not aware of what exactly happened, as I have never read anything about it.

If indeed it was a felony, Gazza may have problems obtaining a work visa. In fact, I think he may not be able to.

[Benedict XVI]

Yeah, i definitely think employers should punish people when the courts have chosen not to do so. You know, because it's not enough to have a criminal justice system, we need to deny criminals any possible attempt to get past their crimes and try to be productive members of society. We'd be much better off if people just didn't hire ex-cons once they got out of jail, or even people who were only charged but never convicted of a crime.

[Big Head Ed]

Originally posted by Soccer-Six-Shooter
DCU or even MLS should not have players with felonys or wife abusers. That dude beat up his wife real bad. Her arm in a sling, black and blue face, arms. I made it thru life thus far with no felonys or hitting girlfriends, child abusers, bribes, extortion, etc. Its not hard to do. Anyone with a felony is out of MLS. period. No criminal league.

Or if you beat up wife, commited a robbery or shot someone, its o.k, c'mon and play for DCU we dont care, we take troublemakers, as long you can put the ball in net.

He without sin cast the first stone. You must be Jesus himself re-incarnated??? I guess you have never done ANYTHING wrong in your life huh???

Would it have been better if he beat her up real good????

Why dont you want him to come??? Are you trying to get a tryout yourself??

In case you didnt notice we have not scored many goals this year and none in at least the past 2 games. Do you want to continue with the way things are going?? Or would you rather make moves and possibly make a run for the playoffs???

[Th4119]

Originally posted by Vicar
Yeah, i definitely think employers should punish people when the courts have chosen not to do so. You know, because it's not enough to have a criminal justice system, we need to deny criminals any possible attempt to get past their crimes and try to be productive members of society. We'd be much better off if people just didn't hire ex-cons once they got out of jail, or even people who were only charged but never convicted of a crime.

Thank you. We should be worrying about Gazza as a footballer. If he's changed off the field as he's said he has, then that should be none of our business.

[dsheon]

Vicar, I've always appreciated your comments and insight but I'm not 100 percent with you here. OJ Simpson had his day in court. If he were a soccer player and could put the ball in the net do you think United should take him?

It's just not that easy and I don't know where I stand on this myself. But just because it didn't happen here in the States and just because supposedly he's had his day in court (and I have no idea if he did) does not mean the league should offer him a contract.

Assuming his ex-wife has a legitimate story to tell and is credible herself, shouldn't her opinion on this? Maybe she wants him playing because it's better for her in some way - financially or otherwise. Or perhaps she thinks it's an insult. If she's a victim and I were Don Garber, I suppose I'd be curious to learn her position before making any decision.

[ONE]

the man's shown his remose and his desire to become a better person. when you own your own soccer team feel free to not hire gazza...in the mean time at least try to enjoy his on the field accomplishments.

[BenReilly]

Originally posted by ds39heon
Vicar, I've always appreciated your comments and insight but I'm not 100 percent with you here. OJ Simpson had his day in court. If he were a soccer player and could put the ball in the net do you think United should take him?

Murder is a pretty extreme example, but generally, America is a very vindictive society. Perhaps it's not coincidental that we also have a lot more crime. A chicken and egg situation to be sure, but I would suggest that focusing on punishment first, second, and last causes more crime and violence.

[big spaniel]

If there's no conviction, there's no visa problem.

[RMDad]

If Gazza has cleaned up his act, and I have no reason to doubt he has, then I say give him a go.
However, and this was mentioned in one article I read, his employment might well be contingent upon his behavior staying posititve.
Bail out clauses were mentioned in the article, pertaining to off-field behavior.

People can and do change, all around you everyday, Six-Shooter. You would be surprised indeed.

Because Gazza is in the public eye, his personal life is news, what about on your street, in your office?
Do you know everyone's personal history, legal included?
The fact is, that if someone isn't a public figure, then you likely don't.
So before you ban anyone whom has ever made a mistake in life, from growing, changing, and being productive, maybe you need to think again.
Mark Dettinger
Father, productive member of society, sober by the grace of God.